Hiya Eric,

  I read your comment and just made a post over there too.
My mistake was to include a "DEL" tag.
Although my post had no ending tag,
the remainder of my post was in unfiltered strikeout font.
What's worse is, the tag itself was filtered, and disappeared.
What?  No post preview?  I'm out-of-context.

  (-:  Chas.M.  :-)

P.S. Could someone confuse legal strikeout with deletion?

> Subject: Re: text-level semantics and the blind?
> From: technomage.hawke@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 04:55:15 -0700
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>
> interesting.
> I never noticed that before. the items that get </del> don't appear invisible to me. in fact, that attribute seems to be ignored. no wonder some documents get confusing to me. I do have a "text attributes" setting in voiceover that would tell me this, but it amps up the verbosity so much as to make reading standard web pages a mess to filter.
>
>
> I posted the following to his comments section a few minutes ago:
> "I was reading this page using voiceover. some of the text attributes were invisible to me. the <del> element was completely invisible. I didn’t even know that those entries were to be removed from the text.
>
> btw, I am a mac user and use voiceover. color highlights, bold, italics, other enhancements are all invisible to me. the only way I could “see” them is if I turned on “text attributes” which would make an ordinary html/5 document unnecessarily verbose. Since I cannot read braille yet (and have no braille device), I have no clear idea if these same markers would be visible or otherwise in braille.
>
> also, I have no clear idea how other screen access software (jaws, window eyes, thunder, system acces and NVDA) would react to these. more input from the blind community is needed."
>
> -Eric
>
> On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:49 AM, der.hans wrote:
>
> > moin moin,
> >
> > http://csswizardry.com/2011/01/html5-and-text-level-semantics/
> >
> > How do these get represented in brail, via screen readers, etc.? Do they
> > stand out at all? Do they muck up your tools? Are they just ignored?
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> > der.hans
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