This email had been intitially sent on the end of 501c status discussion.

We did a great deal of work with The Foundation for Blind Children with the Linux Security Team.
I believe they are in the midst of developing applications for the iPhone and Android phones that completely pull the market out of all the old commercial tools.

In Oregon, FreeGeek recycles donated corporate systems into donation machines and has an extensive Accessibility Project, donating a great number of machines throughout the city to non-profits, as well as individuals.  Not only do they provide a complete desktop with customized Accessibility distro, but they provide volunteer training?

I suggest that Eric (aka Technomage Hawke) call or visit that "friend of PLUG" in North Phoenix to see some of these new tools and how their blind children and adults use what is available.

I believe a few of our Penguins are fairly expert regarding the full list of Accessibility tools available?

Perhaps Eric would like to volunteer to head up a role with PLUG, and coordinate with Hans to have current information documented on a Page or Story (for others needing at a glance Accessibility Linux info) referenced on http://plug.phoenix.az.us.

Any such information you coordinate in good reference form would be wonderful; either you can sign up on plug website and become adept at using it, or forward your copy to one of us who can submit it to Drupal?  You might also volunteer to have your name directly stated as a contact for Accessibility Questions?

Please use this email as a start of technical discussion about accessibility tools for Linux....

Accessibility as it relates to the PLUG, etc.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Technomage Hawke <technomage.hawke@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: NonProfit 501-C Status
To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>


is that darrel shandrow you are talking about?m if so, I say "HI!"

anyway, I can give an overview on linux accessibility. which distributions work well, and which don't (believe it or not, some don't offer themselves to accessibility as well as others).

setting up orca via ssh on an already running system is pretty simple. doing it in the blind from that running system is a bit more difficult (as in, getting the packages, etc).

I haven't tried anything for kde yet, so I cannot yet stipulate that kde will work with orca.

-Eric

On Nov 7, 2010, at 11:23 PM, der.hans wrote:

> Am 07. Nov, 2010 schwätzte Technomage Hawke so:
>
> moin moin,
>
> Well, we do have another blind person giving us a presentation on
> accessibility :).
>
> That's east side, it would be great if you could do something similar on
> the west side.
>
> A presentation on a full setup for a blind user would be great. You could
> also just start with a review of some software that's available and how
> well it works in your opinion. Most of us really can't properly evaluate
> that.
>
> I'm interested in learning more. I rewrote this email due to that
> interest. Recently you had mentioned problems you have with bottom-posting
> and dealing with quoted text. Usually I intersperse my questions and
> rely upon the previous content for context. I rewrote this response as a
> top-post and tried to remove requirements of context coming from previous
> emails.
>
> I won't promise to make this change all the time, but I will endeavor to
> better consider your imposed reading style here and elsewhere.
>
> I will also continue trimming content that is no longer relevant :).
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
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