On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 14:55, Matt Iavarone <matt.iavarone@gmail.com> wrote:

So hatred towards a group of people is OK, but you draw the line at calling people out for it?  Whatever.


I never saw anyone demonstrate HATED towards anyone.
I did see a few people calling out La Raza as a militant anti American group, complain about the negative impact that illegal immigration that they've observed, and provide references to support their opinion and to demonstrate how serious of an issue this is.  If you're denying that illegal immigration is a drain on this state and many other parts of the country then you need to spend 5 minutes trying to see the whole picture.  Please point out where you saw hatred and don't confuse opinions you disagree with with hatred.

The real problem is that Mexico is a corrupt evil place in many ways and America does nothing except keeping that way.  I am against ILLEGAL immigration and I think the Mexican people are terrific.  I have 5 god children from two different families of 1st generation Mexican Americans and I've been to a LOT of large family events where 3/4 of the family there are here illegally.  Illegal immigrants are treated like modern day slaves and in my opinion anyone that supports illegal immigration is as disillusioned and wrong as the people that supported slavery in the past.  The ones that aren't treated like modern day slaves working normal jobs are working under stolen identities and victims of their crime have to fight with the IRS EVERY year to keep from paying taxes that aren't theirs (it is NOT a victimless crime).  Others are in gangs, sell drugs, or steal things to make money.  I've had dinner with these people; they're not bad people.  But since they are here illegally it opens the door for other illegal activity though coercion (if you don't do this I'll turn you/your parents/cousin/etc into INS). 

Mexican gangs are serious.  Our best friends moved to Az to get away from that culture because they wanted their three beautiful little girls to grow up free of that influence.  It took awhile for them to open up about it but while they were in the Mexican gangs they committed murder, sold and did drugs, and stole cars and other things because it was that or fall victim to those same gangs.  If you think I'm bullshitting you google "LA whitefence" to learn about the gang they moved here to get away from.  It's just one of MANY gangs in LA. 

So back to my point.. just because people are anti illegal immigration doesn't mean they're racist or hate Mexicans or Mexico.  You're obviously pro-illegal immigration; why?

JD