On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 22:03, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner@gmail.com> wrote:

  There is no more brainless fatalistic stupidity than this.  Alex said something similar before : "Nobody ever convinced anyone of anything by arguing via email."  If that is true, then why even participate here?  Again you're trying to rationalize the fact that you cannot deal with being exposed to certain information and viewpoints.  When someone encounters something new that actually challenges their world view, first they reject it as 'noise', then they argue and reason with it, then they accept it.

  The issue of illegal aliens is very real and at this point in time, there is no ignoring it.

  -jmz

My point is this:  If your goal is to persuade people to accept something they obviously don't agree to then how you present your argument is as important as your argument itself.   Usually there are points that both sides can agree to such as what you just said:  The issue of illegal aliens is very real and at this point in time, there is no ignoring it.

There are some people that can never be persuaded to accept the truth when there is only one truth and others that can't see that there are two sides.  It is a waste of time after a certain point to try to change their mind further and pressing on just makes it worse.  Wouldn't you agree?