Sorry If I didn't make it clear: I was not suggesting that IE is a decent browser or that anyone should install it for any other reason that ones similar to what you mention in your first paragraph. Sadly there are quite a few Cisco web-based applications, among a few others, that only work in IE, not to mention sites like MSDN and extra functionality for things like Outlook Web Access. For these rare instances I would rather fire up IE6 in wine rather than boot a VM or keep a spare laptop around just for use IE.

-Charles

Lisa Kachold wrote:

The only practical uses for IE6 that I have found are testing browser CSS or Javascript, Extended Validation Certificates, and of course, email filtering maintenance in Sharepoint and Outlook.

I haven't found anything that even touches 1/2 of what FireBug, Web Development, NoScript, Flickr or the other great plugins available for FireFox 3.0 provides for IE!

Opera is a nice browser and will work, unlike FireFox 3, with Silverlight and some of the web site live conferencing sites that are still broken (ah, I mean "URI secure"). Opera is a fine phone browser BTW, if you run your own applications on a PDA.

Firefox 3.0 now protects systems from URI handling exploits (which allow a computer to be completely taken over via browser in Firefox 2.0.0.5 and/or Explorer (especially when installed together in a Microsoft box via "chrome" see http://www.metasploit.com).

These exploits were especially insidious since they often began through a simple trip to a website, and are nearly impossible to track back to the source when XSS proxy exploits are included (which show only the packet traffic to the Apache system with the XSS holes - like Google or another famous public site everyone frequents. These dangerous exploits are still in place [even to the point of allowing for control of your internal DSL routers - seeing all of your protected cache, passwords and browser history]) so everyone should immediately upgrade their older Linux Firefox to 3.0! Generally, all you would have seen would have been a File Not Found after a pause, as the nice encrypted tunnel over port 80/443 sets up to announce you everytime you come online to the attacker irregardless of your DHCP address.

Sometimes, it's just easier to buy a nice DHCP key, move off your files and rebuild under a nice Fedora 9 or Ubuntu - and get all the newest features as well?

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Obnosis || http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/obnosis | Obnosis.com (503)754-4452

Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:53:33 -0700
From: charles.jones@ciscolearning.org
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Easy Wine+IE6 setup (was Re: FW: On topic message about Off topic messages Various Solutions)

Just thought I would mention that I've found this to be the easiest way to setup Internet Exploder 6 on linux:
http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation

It has a nice installer that sets it all up for you, including flash9 plugin, etc.

-Charles

Charles Jones wrote:
Lisa Kachold wrote:

Charles, how is that notebook wireless connection and Apache2 VirtuaHost SSL issue I helped you troubleshoot for your home DSL Name based virtual hosting during the InstallFest? I believe that was you? That was a really fun day?

That wasn't me, but it sounds like it was indeed fun :-)

Join us for the Next PLUG Linux Security HackFest LAB at UAT on September 11, 2008 Noon!

Solutions for Filtering Messages either into Trash, Folder and/or Email forwarding:

Thanks for the tips...I may switch to using server-side filtering instead of making Thunderbird do it :)

-Charles