On 7/5/07, Dan Lund <situationalawareness@gmail.com> wrote:

The problem with rpm is that you can leave that process there for a
week and it won't reap itself.
Its a very odd scenario.

On 7/5/07, Darrin Chandler < dwchandler@stilyagin.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 08:09:54AM -0700, Dan Lund wrote:
> > On 7/5/07, Matt Graham <danceswithcrows@usa.net> wrote:
> > > On Thursday 05 July 2007 10:27, after a long battle with technology,
> > > Shawn Badger wrote:
> > > > how do you kill something when kill -9  doesn't work?
> > >
> > > You don't, generally.  SIGKILL will kill anything that isn't waiting on
> > > a syscall to return.  If something is waiting on a syscall to return
> > > for more than about 0.5 seconds, you've got a hardware problem, a
> > > kernel bug, or a dead NFS server.  (There's currently a live thread on
> > > comp.os.linux.misc about SIGKILL, oddly enough.)
> > >
> >
> > No, it does happen with the rpm application rarely, and almost always
> > its so honked up that a SIGKILL won't terminate it.
> > I've seen it once or twice myself, and it almost always has to do with
> > a corrupted rpm database.
> > As far as killing it, that's something that I'd love to figure out....
> > Though I've only ran into this on new installs when I'm applying
> > patches.  I've always just figured itd take less man hours to
> > re-install.
>
> No, he's got it right. There's nothing that -9 won't kill unless the
> kernel looks at it and says "oh, I'm not killing that!" The most common
> form of this is a zombie process, which is a dead process that the
> kernel keeps around waiting for the zombie's child to finish. Let the
> child exit on it's own, or kill the child process, and then kernel will
> (sooner or later) clean up the zombie itself.
>
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