"Most people of experience believed it produced bloated code"<br><br>Boy does that sound familiar<br><pre><tt><tt><br></tt></tt></pre><br><b><i>Lynn Newton &lt;lynn.newton@gmail.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> C++, eh?<br><br>When I first studied C (not ++, and pre-ANSI days), I got a book<br>from a Walden bookstore on the far west side of town -- and I live<br>in northeast Phoenix -- because it was the only bookstore in town<br>I could find *any* book on C -- and it was not K&amp;R -- in its<br>collection of 20 or so computer related titles on the store<br>shelves.<br><br>I "learned" C in the evenings sitting at my desk with a ruler and<br>pen to underline with (they didn't have transparent markers yet),<br>making marginal notes.<br><br>I did not have a compiler. In fact, I did not yet have a computer.<br>(I bought a Commodore 64 not long afterward.)<br><br>It was not
 until I worked for Motorola (actually Four Phase Systems,<br>which was owned by Motorola) in 1982 that I had a chance even to<br>write a Hello World C program.<br><br>By that time I had written a bunch of stuff in BASIC, including the<br>porting of a commercial application program for the IBM PC to the<br>TRS-80 (who remembers those?), and had even managed to write and<br>compile at least one COBOL program, which also ran on the TRS-80.<br>(Not my machine.)<br><br>C++ has been around a long time, but was rarely even mentioned when<br>I worked at Motorola, other than to argue its merits. (Most people<br>of experience believed it produced bloated code inappropriate to<br>the system programming we did there.)<br><br>Years later, when I worked a short time at MontaVista, in an office<br>full of Linux kernel developers I don't believe I ever heard the<br>words "object oriented" uttered, except on a couple of occasions:<br><br>(1) Object oriented Perl: YUK!!! That ended that
 discussion forthrightly.<br><br>(2) Various comments by people who knew and loved Python, which<br>    included most of the people who worked in the test organization<br>    I was a part of.<br><br>Reminisce onward ...<br><br>&gt; on my first class in C++. I remember the funny "They drop my punch cards<br>&gt; stories". Good times :)<br><br>-- <br>Lynn<br>---------------------------------------------------<br>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us<br>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br>http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss<br></blockquote><br><BR><BR><br>------------------------<br>Keith Smith<br>(480) 584-4772<br><a href="http://www.netcodeman.com/">PHP Programming</a><br><span style="font-weight: bold;"><br></span><p>&#32;
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