As a side note we usually give away
several hundred dollars worth of brand new stuff at the ASULUG install fests.
Remote controlled cars, books, pool cues, lava lamps, etc. We also give a way
a substantial amount of donated equipment and have one or two MAME boxes, and
pizza, and chip, and soda, etc., etc., etc. It is quite the lucrative event to
attend ;)
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[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Bryan O'Neal
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007
6:05 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: RE: New Computer:
We get them from generous community
members. As for why…
Well… I am one person and I
have five usable computers, four of which are set up in my house and one sits
in the garage. The one that is not set up is an old 600Mhz computer that
I lug around (no pun intended) as a demo machine / kiosk. Let us say I
was a… more normal person, I may only want to have one or two machines
for my self and one for my wife (she took my Mac) that would leave me with a
600MHz computer and a 1.7 GHz computer just sitting their. I could take
the time to sell this at some swap meet for $25-$50 or I could give it to a
charity at a function I would be attending any way, and take several hundred
off on my taxes.
To me the choice would be clear and I
would give it to charity. There are a number of truly generous people who
think the same way, like
If some one wants to take away my old
kiosk machines there are a couple of early Pentium 233’s you can
have. But I’m keeping the 486 sx/33 with the p100 overdrive chip in
it ;)
I’ll even triad for a working
Commodore 64 ;)
From:
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[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of keith smith
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007
2:38 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: RE: New Computer:
where do you get them and why would some discard such a machine?
Bryan O'Neal
<BONeal@cornerstonehome.com> wrote:
We gave away two
computers last ASULUG installfest and I think both of
them where above 1GHz processors and more then 512MB with some decent
vid cards.
We may have another next installfest :)
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From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of
Michael Havens
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:26 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: New Computer:
Okay, Does anyone out there on the cyber trail have a computer they want
to
part with? I'm on another mailing list and a guy in Sanfransico thinks
I'm
crazy for trying to keep this old box as anything except a firewall.
Gee..... you guys think that too!
He was saying how he picked up a box with 768 MB RAM and an 800 Mhz
processor,
with a 40 gig drive, for $20 at a yard sale and said if I was in his
area
he'd give it to me. (I'll post our exchange at the bottom... I think it
is
funny
I don't even need the stuff like USB ports or hard drive or floppy or
CDRom. I
can just yank them out of the old computer.
-exchange-
Sounds to me like udev isn't running on your box.
Is it even installed?
I'm running Ubuntu, another Debian derivative. Have you tried:
dpkg -l | grep -i udev
Have you tried running Ubuntu. Everything is just there and it works.
Russ
To: Russ Button
original
Yep.... udev is there.
apt-get install udev
udev is the newest version
To: Michael Havens
original
Well, I can't help you a whole lot then. I've been following the
discussion a bit and if you've got to recompile the kernel... well
that's ugly. I don't know what your situation is, but have you
considered switching to Ubuntu Linux? It's also a Debian derivative and
jpilot just works, like most everything else.
I know it's something of a tail wagging the dog kind of thing, but
Ubuntu really is complete. I've been using one form of 'IX or another
since 1989 and I'm in love with Ubuntu.
Russ
To: Russ Button
original
I like the sound of that. I guess Ubuntuu shouldn't be that bad......
but really I do want to compile a kernel. I guess it is for my own
edification. If compiling a new kernel doesn't help I will do it then
PLUS I'll have my custom kernel!
To: Michael Havens
original
Having a custom kernel only means that YOU have to support that
kernel.
And 6 months from now when a later kernel rev comes out, if you want to
be current, you'll have to re-compile that kernel with your specific
mods, which may or may not work with that kernel.
I haven't had to compile a kernel in 15 years and I don't plan to do so
again any time soon.
Give me something that works.
Russ
To: Russ Button
original
I am running the 2 6 15 kernel now and the concensus seems to be that
my box cannot run such a kernel. I then ran synaptic to get a 2 4
kernel (2 4 27-2-k6) but that didn't install a properly running
kernel. So I am just biding my time until:
1- it works
2- someone takes the time to help show me how to compile it.
It seems david said he had written an extensive how to so right now I
am just waiting for a link to it
- Show quoted text -
To: Michael Havens
original
Running Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake), I have the 2.6.15-27 kernel.
Unless
your box is REALLY old, I'm sure it would support that just fine. All
it needs is a 350 Mhz processor and 128 MB RAM. Surely you have that
much.
To: Russ Button
original
REAAAAALY old! I had it built in 97..... or was it 96? It has a k6
processor
To: Michael Havens
original
Oh God! Why do you waste your time with it then when newer stuff is
sooooooo cheap? Isn't your time worth something? Last year I picked up
a box with 768 MB RAM and an 800 Mhz processor, with a 40 gig drive, for
$20 at a yard sale. I'm cleaning out the basement now and if you were
here in the
you. Good grief! 1997?!
Machines that old can be useful, but not as desktops. There's a special
Linux gizmo out there which exists solely on a floppy disk for the
purpose of making your machine into a firewall. Put two NIC cards in
the box and a floppy drive, and that's all you need. No hard drive at
all. Of course seeing as how you can buy commercial firewall/routers
for about $25 new, why bother?!
Junk that machine man and score something a little newer at least. I'll
betcha you could find a 500 Mhz PIII box for $50 or less if you just
look around.
Coolness,
Russ
To: Russ Button
original
Okay Russ.... I'll look around. I'll ask the local Linux guys!
They'll
help me pick something up (I hope).
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