On 10/16/06, Eric Shubes <plug@shubes.net> wrote:

I agree that yum is very nice. I've even done major upgrades (RH9->CentOS4)
using it.

Vaughn, which version of Mandrake are you using? According to
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7448 , Mandrake 9.2 has it on the
distribution disk in contrib/i586/yum-2.0.1-1mdk.noarch.rpm. See article for
more details.

Stick with it. Once you get yum going, I think you'll love it.

Vaughn Treude wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 07:22, JD Austin wrote:
>> Fore redhat I install both yum and apt to get out of dependency
>> nightmares pretty painlessly.
>> I'm not sure of the mandrake repositories out there.
>> The dag repository for redhat stays pretty up to date
>> :http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/
>> Here's one set of yum repositories I found for mandrake:
>> http://speculation.org/garrick/yum.conf
>>
>> JD
>>
>
> JD,
> Thanks for the feedback.  I have heard about yum, so I decided on your
> suggestion to try it, and downloaded the latest version, yum 3.0.
> Unfortunately, it's a bit baffling.  To begin with, the INSTALL file was
> not encouraging:
>
>       For usage information, please see the README.
>
>       run make
>       run make install, if you're a masochist.
>
>       you're better off making an rpm and installing it
>
> If "make install" is so bad, why do they provide it?  And how should I
> make this rpm?  And what will making the rpm accomplish?  I haven't a
> clue!  OK, so I tried the "make install" anyway. It _seemed_ to work.
> Running yum gives this message:
>
>       There was a problem importing one of the Python modules
>       required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was:
>
>          No module named yum
>
> That's very interesting, since yum is what I allegedly just installed.
> Perhaps I don't have the right version of python (mine is 2.3.3) - seems
> like the most likely explanation for this snafu but I don't see any
> documentation in the yum source which tells me what version I need.
>
> In the FAQ file, I found this interesting tidbit:
>
>       If you are getting a message that yum itself is the missing module then
> you probably  installed  it incorreclty (or installed the source rpm
> using make/make install). If possible, find a prebuilt rpm that will
> work for your system like one from Fedora or CentOS. Or, you can
> download the srpm and do a
>
>    rpmbuild --rebuild yum*.src.rpm
>
> I didn't find any prebuild rpm's for my system, but I did see a source
> RPM, which I downloaded, and I tried that rpmbuild.  It spews a lot of
> messages, but I can't see that anything actually happened under
> /usr/src/RPM, nor does yum work any differently than besfore.  Did the
> previous operation actually modify the yum RPM I downloaded?  Not sure,
> but I tried installing it, which produces a tarball in
> /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES.  I unzipped and untarred this and now what?
> Another make and make install?  Why not?
>
> Nothing's changed, though.
>
> My conclusion:  I've never seen a more muddled and confusing and utterly
> useuless installation on any open source product!
>
> Vaughn
>
>
>
>> Vaughn Treude wrote:
>>> Hello everyone:
>>>
>>> I've got a Mandrake system I use for my day-to-day business.  I do not
>>> want to upgrade it, as it generally works fine and I've _never_ had an
>>> upgrade-type install succeed on Linux, ever (it has always hung the
>>> system - and I've tried it on several machines at several times.)  My
>>> Mandrake system's most annoying feature is that its email client
>>> (Evolution 1.4.6) is buggy and has somehow gotten worse; I've let my
>>> mail file get large and now it no longer allows me to empty the trash
>>> folder. I wanted to try a newer version of Evolution, but they all have
>>> too many dependencies; I can't even get the configure script to finish.
>>> Then I remembered someone mentioning Balsa, whose name implies "light
>>> weight", so I thought, this should be easier.  I didn't have to add a
>>> lot of libraries to get the configure script to run, but the stupid
>>> thing won't compile, due to missing header files.  It started out with a
>>> file that I found in one of the Debian *-dev source packages, which then
>>> required another, and then another.  After downloading and installing at
>>> least 20 of these packages, I finally come to a dead end: gtkhtml-dev.
>>> It has versions only for fink, maemo, and freebsd.  There's supposedly a
>>> gtkhtml-devel package in the SuSE hierarchy but those links to that are
>>> broken.  Does anybody know why a package like this would be impossible
>>> to find with Google?   Or can anybody suggest a less painful alternative
>>> email client?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Vaughn
>>>

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-Eric 'shubes'
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