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  1. Re: RedSeven new store party (ec)
  2. Re: RedSeven new store party (Craig White)
  3. Re: RedSeven new store party (ec)
  4. Re: Need Linux digital camera advice (ec)
  5. Re: RedSeven new store party (Craig White)
  6. RE: RedSeven new store party (Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.)
  7. Where to report abuse (Carl Parrish)
  8. Re: Where to report abuse (Ed Skinner)
  9. Re: Where to report abuse (Sean Horan)
10. NO evacuee help ( der.hans)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 07:31:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: ec <eculbert@yahoo.com >
Subject: Re: RedSeven new store party
To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
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Yes, I just lost some 'respect' for them/their
'better' ideas! I cannot read it till I highlight it
or copy/paste to kwrite!!

Hope they read this!!

--- "der.hans" <PLUGd@LuftHans.com> wrote:

> moin, moin,
>
> Red Seven is opening a new location downtown.
>
> They're hosting a grand opening party this
> Wednesday.
>
> http://www.RedSevenLinux.com/news.php?id=12
>
> Does that come up in a hard to read light grey for
> everybody else?
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
> --
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Cyclists should expect and demand safe
accommodation on our public roads,
just as does every other user.

Nothing more is expected.

Nothing less is acceptable!

Long live Knoppix!!

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 07:49:46 -0700
From: Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com>
Subject: Re: RedSeven new store party
To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Message-ID: < 1126018186.8235.32.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>
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On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 07:31 -0700, ec wrote:
> Yes, I just lost some 'respect' for them/their
> 'better' ideas! I cannot read it till I highlight it
> or copy/paste to kwrite!!
>
> Hope they read this!!
>
----
Downtown Phoenix Store - September 7th

Big News! RedSeven is opening another location right in Downtown
Phoenix's CopperSquare. Please join us for the Grand Opening Party on
September 7th from 4pm - 7pm.

23 W. Jefferson St. Phoenix, AZ 85003 (SW Central & Jefferson). *FYI:
Parking Meters in Downtown Phoenix are FREE after 5pm.

if this helps...

Craig

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:03:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: ec <eculbert@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RedSeven new store party
To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
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I loose respect for ANY, ah, id**t that makes it hard
to read, either dark on dark or light on light
text/whatever.

There is NO excuse to make people jump thru hoops to
read the text. Nor view the page.....PERIOD END!!

--- Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com > wrote:

> On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 07:31 -0700, ec wrote:
> > Yes, I just lost some 'respect' for them/their
> > 'better' ideas! I cannot read it till I highlight
> it
> > or copy/paste to kwrite!!
> >
> > Hope they read this!!
> >
> ----
> Downtown Phoenix Store - September 7th
>
> Big News! RedSeven is opening another location right
> in Downtown
> Phoenix's CopperSquare. Please join us for the Grand
> Opening Party on
> September 7th from 4pm - 7pm.
>
> 23 W. Jefferson St. Phoenix, AZ 85003 (SW Central &
> Jefferson). *FYI:
> Parking Meters in Downtown Phoenix are FREE after
> 5pm.
>
> if this helps...
>
> Craig
>
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Cyclists should expect and demand safe
accommodation on our public roads,
just as does every other user.

Nothing more is expected.

Nothing less is acceptable!

Long live Knoppix!!

______________________________________________________
Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:12:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: ec <eculbert@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Need Linux digital camera advice
To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Message-ID: < 20050906151201.15216.qmail@web51705.mail.yahoo.com>
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Siri, in my limited experience with linux and usb
cameras, I have found that some of the newer versions
of linux 'leave behind' the drivers for older
technology camera's. Ex: I, not being into camera's
much, had a JamCam kids $30 camera w/usb. Knoppix
supports it in Knoppix 3.2 and I think 3.3, but not in
later versions. Luckily I didn't toss the 3.2 cdrom.

So make sure the camera works with the version you are
using, and IF you pay much for the camera, KEEP the
cdrom's just incase you have to re-install the
software to get the camera to work!! Or the drivers
are not available except on that install or Live cd.

Just my two cents worth.

--- Siri Amrit Kaur <tigerflag@tigerflag.com> wrote:

> I'm wanting to get a digital camera. I don't know
> anything about
> digital cameras or how to get them to work in Linux.
> I've never
> attached a USB device of any kind to my computer,
> I'm that far behind
> the times. My son has an Olympus Camedia C-50 and it
> takes great
> pictures. I've searched, but can't tell if it's
> supported in Linux.
>
> From what I've been reading, what I really need is a
> flash reader
> that's supported in Linux- the camera model doesn't
> matter so much.
> Do y'all agree? If so, what do I need to know about
> flash readers- or
> anything else camera-related-  before I buy one?
>
> Thanks for any advice you can give me.
>
> Siri Amrit
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Cyclists should expect and demand safe
accommodation on our public roads,
just as does every other user.

Nothing more is expected.

Nothing less is acceptable!

Long live Knoppix!!

______________________________________________________
Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:16:11 -0700
From: Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com>
Subject: Re: RedSeven new store party
To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Message-ID: < 1126019771.8235.35.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com>
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On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 08:03 -0700, ec wrote:
> I loose respect for ANY, ah, id**t that makes it hard
> to read, either dark on dark or light on light
> text/whatever.
>
> There is NO excuse to make people jump thru hoops to
> read the text. Nor view the page.....PERIOD END!!
>
----
too much drama

someone who created the web page thought it worked for him. Simply tell
the webmaster that it doesn't work for you.

No reason to get all worked up.

Craig

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:33:59 -0700
From: "Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr." < plug@phxinternet.net>
Subject: RE: RedSeven new store party
To: "'Main PLUG discussion list'"
       < plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Message-ID: <200509061038406.SM01092@D600GILBERT>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

It is interesting to see someone first, resort to name calling, and second,
be so hard line.

People need to have respect for others and their ideas.  Name calling is not
respect.

Gilbert

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From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of ec
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 8:04 AM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: RedSeven new store party

I loose respect for ANY, ah, id**t that makes it hard to read, either dark
on dark or light on light text/whatever.

There is NO excuse to make people jump thru hoops to read the text. Nor view
the page.....PERIOD END!!

--- Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 07:31 -0700, ec wrote:
> > Yes, I just lost some 'respect' for them/their 'better' ideas! I
> > cannot read it till I highlight
> it
> > or copy/paste to kwrite!!
> >
> > Hope they read this!!
> >
> ----
> Downtown Phoenix Store - September 7th
>
> Big News! RedSeven is opening another location right in Downtown
> Phoenix's CopperSquare. Please join us for the Grand Opening Party on
> September 7th from 4pm - 7pm.
>
> 23 W. Jefferson St. Phoenix, AZ 85003 (SW Central & Jefferson). *FYI:
> Parking Meters in Downtown Phoenix are FREE after 5pm.
>
> if this helps...
>
> Craig
>
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Cyclists should expect and demand safe
accommodation on our public roads,
just as does every other user.

Nothing more is expected.

Nothing less is acceptable!

Long live Knoppix!!

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 10:39:39 -0700
From: Carl Parrish <lists@pcl-consulting.com >
Subject: Where to report abuse
To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
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I can use the collective's advise on this. from my logs I see that one
IP address tried to login to one of my servers 32 times they tried 16
different user name / passwd combos.  How should I deal with this?

I know all IP addresses fo people authorized to login to this server
this is not one of them.

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:55:16 -0700
From: "Ed Skinner" <ed@flat5.net>
Subject: Re: Where to report abuse
To: cparrish@pcl-consulting.com,        "Main PLUG discussion list"
       <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>,        "Carl Parrish"
       <lists@pcl-consulting.com>
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On Tuesday 06 September 2005 10:39, Carl Parrish wrote:
> I can use the collective's advise on this. from my logs I see that one
> IP address tried to login to one of my servers 32 times they tried 16
> different user name / passwd combos.  How should I deal with this?

    Monitor it as you are doing, verify to your satisfaction that your
systems are secure against the kinds of assault you see as well as those
reported by others, and then forget it. (It never stops.)

--
Ed Skinner, ed@flat5.net, http://www.flat5.net/

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:00:06 -0700
From: Sean Horan <sean@emvis.net>
Subject: Re: Where to report abuse
To: cparrish@pcl-consulting.com,        Main PLUG discussion list
       <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Message-ID: < 431DD926.8070606@emvis.net>
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       whois -h whois.arin.net off.end.ing.ip

will give you the whois record for the ip, or tell you the whois server
to go to (eg, at APNIC).  your version of whois may figure this out for
you so the -h argument might be optional.

I get what you describe daily on my server.  The machines are botted and
I don't think there's much point to complaining.

Spending your time keeping your machine locked down is the best response
to this as opposed to drafting abuse emails for every last IP that
shows up.  if they in fact got in, then I'd of course be banging down
their door.

--sean

Carl Parrish wrote:
> I can use the collective's advise on this. from my logs I see that one
> IP address tried to login to one of my servers 32 times they tried 16
> different user name / passwd combos.  How should I deal with this?
>
> I know all IP addresses fo people authorized to login to this server
> this is not one of them.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:00:27 -0700 (MST)
From: "der.hans" <PLUGd@LuftHans.com>
Subject: NO evacuee help
To: quatsch <PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
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moin, moin,

the state is putting evacuees up at the coliseum/fairgrounds. They will
likely be there for a month ( longer at other locations ). They do have
cell phones, but do not have Net connectivity.

I have approached the state about setting up a few boxen for the evacuees
to use for email and resumes.

The IT department is interested in assistance in getting the evacuees
setup with Net access.

I already have a few volunteers for setting up the network.

We might be able to get boxen from STRuT, but we won't know until
tomorrow. If that falls through I'll likely need help getting donations
that we can setup in the next few days.

I would like to say this is a PLUG effort ( most everyone involved thus
far is from PLUG ). Is that cool with everyone?

If this goes well we might be asked to do the same thing in Tucson and
maybe at ASU as well.

ciao,

der.hans
--
#  https://www.LuftHans.com/
#  If you don't think for yourself, others will think for you --
#  to their advantage.  -- Harold Gordon

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