> What is the advantage in using Ansible for this? Why not just use Plesk or ISPConfig? I'm talking getting down on the metal and actually installing and configuring and managing a ton of technology. Ansible is a "Configuration Management" tool/utility. Is isn't a replacement for Please/ISP config. You write "Configuration As Code" (CaC), so it can be quickly applied over and over. It'll make more sense after you get a basic introduction to Ansible. --- Thanks, Alexander Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro On Sat, Feb 22, 2025, 07:53 wrote: > Thanks Alexander!! > > I always enjoy your feedback. > > > On 2025-02-21 19:42, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: > > Hi Keith -- > > > > Once again, you've touched on topics that would be absolutely "low > > hanging fruit" wins with (easily) Ansible and (probably) a little bit > > of Docker. You can easily setup a bare metal web server, and get it > > all configured with Ansible ... But I think Docker would be *clutch* > > in taking the hassle and complication out of FRM/MVC/WEB ... Just my > > two-cents there. > > > > What is the advantage in using Ansible for this? Why not just use Plesk > or ISPConfig? I'm talking getting down on the metal and actually > installing and configuring and managing a ton of technology. > > I did it once on a laptop 3 or 4 years ago. I leaned a lot and I got > lucky. > > > > > Most of your posted topics seem to lean on your age or tech > > background. I hear a lot of self-doubt mixed in. TRUST ME, I am the > > absolute KING of self-doubt in the technical space. My "M.O." is > > usually "hating" a technology because it's "stupid", which is just a > > cover for me not knowing it and not being confident in my ability to > > learn new things. > > > > self-doubt or an accurate assessment? I an a PHP developer not a system > admin. I let my skills become rusty and until recent I had not worked > with a server since CentOS. I've learned a lot in the last 6 months and > feel stronger than ever. > > Yes I did configure that web server however I did not configure it to us > PHP-FPM which I think is a critical piece. > > > > > > Once upon a time I though "Regular Expressions" were "stupid" ... It's > > been about 10 years since I climbed over that hill. > > > I see the value however this is not part of my skill set. > > > > > > You've got this, because I believe in you -- WE believe in you, and > > the fact that you're asking these kinds of questions means you're > > already trying to take the first step(s). > > Thanks for the encouragement. > > > > > > Take an afternoon to review Ansible and YAML. YAML, as a language was > > extremely simple to "get the hang of" ... For the essential basics. 8 > > years later and I'm still learning new things ... But the > > "simple-pimple" basics can be had in an afternoon. > > I still do not see the value in Ansible for what I want to do. I think > the value for me is installing Linux on some hardware and spinning up > and configuring each part of the puzzle with the end goal of a complete > web server. There is a lot to learn. I think by going through each > step on the command line would be the best learning opportunity. > > Yes I have some skepticism. A lot of skepticism. To build a web server, > a complete web server, on the command line, with DNS, email, webmail, > Let's Encrypt ... etc is a ton of technology and a ton to know. AND it > is a ton to support. > > I must confess that if I am able to learn enough to make this a reality > I think I will have earned a place on the porch with the big dogs. > > This email exchange has caused me to look at this a bit harder. I made > the comment that I would be a fool to build a web server from scratch. > I realized I was looking at this from a business owner's perspective. > They need their website to just work w/o a lot of attention so they can > attend to their business. > > That is what I meant by being a fool. > > I am in the business of learning and sharing on YouTube and via my blog. > So taking this journey might just be the thing to do. > > The last part of this is not to get distracted. There are lots of shiny > objects out there. To be successful I have to say NO to some of them. > > I am going to start putting a plan together for going bare metal. > > Thank you for taking this journey with me!! > > Keith > > > > > > > > Ansible is a bit deeper, but a couple of weeks dicking around the CLI > > will have you running playbooks in no time. > > > > If you fall down the rabbit hole of "Ansible Roles" you'll realize > > that a million-and-two things have already been coded for you! > > > > I hate roles and I think their stupid (see above if that doesn't make > > sense!). > > > > Let me know how I can help! > > Thank you for your offer to help!! > > > > > > > --- > > Thanks, > > Alexander > > > > Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro > > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2025, 18:36 Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> This is a dying on the vine question. 2 or 3 years ago I ran a web > >> server from my home office. The websites I am running on a VPS in a > >> > >> hosting center server are production. I need them to run > >> effortlessly. > >> That is what I like about Plesk and ISPConfig. > >> > >> I got lucky in configuring that web server that was running on my > >> home > >> office Internet connection. > >> > >> I believe I would be a fool to try this. > >> > >> On top of that I am planning on creating a M-V-C framework and > >> moving my > >> websites to that. And I have a web app I would like to build. > >> > >> I have developed some decent Linux skills, however I am no system > >> administrator. > >> > >> Your Thoughts? > >> > >> Thanks!! > >> > >> Keith > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >