Are you sure you're calculating that correctly? The average household across the entire US is 10mWh/year (i.e. 10,000kWh/year), and I'd imagine living in Arizona with the extra AC usage would bump that up a bit. That and given you have two AC units with a pool, using only a fifth of the average seems like a stretch. My personal electric bill in the middle of the summer peaks at nearly 5mWh just for the month... On Wed, Nov 27, 2024, at 5:56 PM, Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss wrote: > I'm on someone's Excel spreadsheet at SRP, with the sheet called "Assholes". > > I use, at my last check, like 2 megawatts per year, or something obscene like that. > > Powering my server stack is a part of that, but it's probably not that impactful. The two A/C, pool, pool heater/cool (like a third A/C unit) ... And my wife keeps the house around 68F all year ... Soooooo. > > I really do want solar, but my wife says that project isn't until the late 20s, at best, probably early 2030s. > > I really want the redundant A/B power supplies with the red cords and black cords. > > I'm the king of "Isn't that a bit excessive for a homelab?" ... So I think this is right up my alley! > > --- > Thanks, > Alexander > > Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024, 11:01 Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> So solar usually pairs best with some level of power storage. and amazon has some amazing options going right now for far less than what you are getting quoted. >> >> Just the fast search comes up with this kit for a ton less than you are getting quoted. >> Bear in mind you will have to add in the cost of connecting it to your panel, but still an interesting baseline. >> >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 12:41 PM George Toft via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> A friend was looking into solar with a Tesla wall (battery). I looked at >>> her APS bill - it was $120/month. They were seriously considering >>> spending $25K to cut down on the peak demand charge. The most they would >>> save was $20/month. That's an ROI that would never be achieved. >>> >>> I have solar. APS invited me to buy a battery and they would pay me >>> $1250 if I let them manage it. The battery was quoted at $15K. Yeah, no. >>> So let's say I use the battery to keep my 4pm-7pm APS draw minimized, >>> what is my ROI? Looking at my past bills, my peak demand charge ranges >>> from $5 to $121 per month. Let's average that out to $65/month. So $15K >>> to save $65/month gives me an ROI of 230 months. It will be less due to >>> APS price increases, but that's still 15-20 years out, and by then the >>> battery would need to be replaced, nullifying any notion of an ROI. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> George Toft >>> >>> On 11/26/2024 3:31 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > I have been curious about solar for sometime. >>> > >>> > I am looking at my electric bill and I use less than 600k watts a >>> > month for 1/2 the year. >>> > >>> > My math does not seem to work out. >>> > >>> > 1) Convert 600000 watts at 120 volts * .1 = 60,000 watts at 12 volts. >>> > 2) 60,000 watts divided by 30 = 2000 watts at 12 volts per day. >>> > 3) If I can harvest solar for 4 hours a day that is 2000/4 = 500 watts >>> > at 12 volts. >>> > >>> > That means I only need 500 watts of solar. This does not take into >>> > consideration loss of power in the system. >>> > >>> > If the system losses 30% then I need around 715 watts of solar panels >>> > to meet my needs. >>> > >>> > I was expecting a lot more. >>> > >>> > Any help is much appreciated!! >>> > >>> > Keith >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >