I'm quite certain all three letter agencies spy on us at the behest of the DC establishment as they create the laws and Wall Street has their spies as well.its all about commerce and trade.  always has been. On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 10:17:52 PM MST, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote: Nope! I saw that situation coming about 10 years ago. Also, wouldn’t trust AVAST or other similar eastern EU products for much the same reason. -EricFrom the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Software Insecurity Dept. On Jun 22, 2024, at 8:02 PM, wheelie207 via PLUG-discuss wrote: I'm sure most of you have heard about kaspersky now being banned from the U.S. I figured that was going to happen since Russia has control over business in that country and a national security threat to the U.S....Is anyone else surprised by this.  Harold Hartley Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss