well, I'm going to get another recycled computer. A thinkcentre. From what I've heard they are, at the most, 3 years old and not up to spec for windows 11 (why they are in recycle). Got to love windows for that alone! Or does someone have a better idea? Any one know of the top of there head how much RAM maxes it out? On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 10:59 PM wheelie207 via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > > > Sent from Proton Mail for iOS > I have a system with over 32 gigs of DDR5 ram and the swap isn’t even > used. I also have a thread ripper cpu and it runs at 5.8 gigahertz in speed > on a am5 slot. But these new boards run the data through the cpu when > reading and writing data to the ssd5. > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 09:02, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > > wrote: > > SSD ram cache does not prevent wear and tear on your SSD, it is used stop > the bottleneck slowdown when writing lots of data to the SSD. The best way > to prevent wear and tear is system ram, if you have enough ram the system > may not even have to swap anything out, The three things that I always move > off of an SSD are swap, log files, and tmp. > If you have a ddr4 motherboard with four slots. You can have 128 GB of > RAM. Right now you can get 64 GB of ddr4 RAM for around $135. > > What determines how much RAM you need is the programs you are running and > how much RAM they need. Video and image editing require a lot more RAM then > email and Web browsing. > > If you are going to use an SSD for your system drive. I would also > recommend that the minimum size be 2 TB. As long as you don't fill it up, > it has lots of room to use unused sectors to lessen the wear and tear. > > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2024, 8:24 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> On my current system I am running without swap, but I do have 32gb ram. >> >> If you pick an ssd with a ram cache on it you don't have to worry about >> swap as much there. And you can extend ssd life with underprovisioning if >> it still is a concern. But in reality a good quality ssd Wil last for years >> even with swap in place as long as you don't run near max storage. >> >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024, 6:49 AM James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss < >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> To avoid swap wearing out your ssd, if you don't have an hd handy, you >>> can set vm.swappiness to 0. This is not great since paging is quite >>> efficient these days, but sometimes you'll want swap for suspend operations >>> and don't want to actually page unless you're under memory pressure. >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 3:09 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss < >>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Check out the latest batch of Intel-based N100 Mini PCs. They’re >>>> smaller than MacMinis. >>>> >>>> I’d say a minimal configuration would be 32GB of RAM and 1TB (or 2TB) >>>> of SSD. I’d say an N100 is minimal CPU. >>>> >>>> Some with AMD CPUs are cheaper as well. >>>> >>>> Here’s a search on Amazon: >>>> >>>> https://amzn.to/3woboP0 >>>> >>>> They don’t sort very well; here’s the cheapest Linux box I found. There >>>> are cheaper ones with Windows that you can delete. >>>> >>>> https://amzn.to/48wM5rv >>>> >>>> I’ve got a 2014 MacMini, a 2014 MBP, and a 2018 MacMini and they’re >>>> still going strong. You can find late-model used Intel MacMinis for a few >>>> hundred bucks that work great. >>>> >>>> Way back in the day, the all-in-one boxes used to have problems with a >>>> serial port or the video going out and the whole thing would be dead. But >>>> that doesn’t seem to happen much any more. I use my MacMinis daily and the >>>> newer one runs the fan a lot when I’m watching videos, but other than that, >>>> they’re still humming right along. I had one of the first gen iMacs and the >>>> video card in it died shortly after the AppleCare expired. I ended up >>>> selling it for $375 anyway. Today you can buy USB-3 and USB-C expansion >>>> ports with one or more HDMI interfaces on them if the on-board video dies. >>>> >>>> Unless you need a super-high-power over-clocked water-cooled screaming >>>> machine for gaming or bitcoin mining, I cannot see the value in building a >>>> machine from scratch unless you’re trying to do it on the cheap using >>>> recycled components. What’s the point? >>>> >>>> -David Schwartz >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 23, 2024, at 6:46 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss < >>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> I want a guy I know to put a computer together for me. I'm thinking a >>>> single core (I don't think I need more processing power than that) with 8 >>>> gig of ram. I'm wanting to spend $3-$400. I'm an older guy now and won't >>>> use it for much more than web and email. What should I tell him to put in >>>> it? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> James McPhee >>> jmcphe@gmail.com >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: