the downside for these processors is their mainboards are still very pricy
to buy. much more than the CPU itself. you are almost better off looking
for and buying a refurbished server which you can get for almost
ludicrously inexpensive prices.

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 1:56 PM Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> The CPU's cheap because it's old and no one wants them anymore -- it's of
> the same generation as 6000 series intel processors (i.e. skylake). It also
> uses a server socket, so the only motherboards you're going to be able to
> find are server motherboards. Those are going to be expensive and/or have
> other quirks, such as requiring a vendor specific heatsink, or a
> vendor-specific power supply, or take 5 minutes to start up, etc.
>
> You'd be better off spending money on a last-gen cpu and motherboard, for
> instance here's a combination that is relatively cheap:
>
> $174 for an i5-12400, which according to cpubenchmark.net is nearly 30%
> faster than the Xeon you linked (score of 19501 vs 15146, much faster
> single-core score as well):
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-12400-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NMPD8V2/
>
> $139 for a compatible motherboard:
> https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B760M-DS3H-AX-Motherboard/dp/B0BSP61QZC/
>
> I also wouldn't pay so much attention to the number of "threads" you think
> you'll need; you can run many VMs with a total number of virtual processors
> that is much more than what you actually have, and as long as you're not
> trying to go whole hog on every machine at the same time you'll be fine,
> and even if you do, you'll still be better off with a faster processor with
> a few fewer threads than an older slower cpu with more.
>
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was surfing the Inter Web when I happened upon a Xeon server CPU.  It
> is marked at $32.49 at Newegg.  It has 12 cores and 24 threads and has a
> good benchmark score.
>
> https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+Silver+4116+%40+2.10GHz&id=3179
>
> https://www.newegg.com/p/274-000A-007K2?Description=Xeon
>
> In the future at some point I would like to build something with 20 plus
> or minus cores and 40 threads more or less for Proxmox.  This would be
> over kills because I only need 1 or 2 VMs active at one time... maybe 3
> in an extreme situation.
>
> This 12 core/24 thread CPU with 64Gb of Ram and a 1Tb SSD would really
> be more resources than I would ever need.  Off the top of my head this
> means I might be able to build a decent Proxmox server for $500 - $600.
>
> I do not need fancy video except for one VM that might be running Win 10
> or 11...  I assume a server grade CPU would handle Win 10 and 11?
>
> Am I on the right track?
>
> Thank You For Your Feedback!!
>
> Keith
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