Unlike a lot of FOSSers, I'm not a Microsoft hater (Oracle, maybe).  Hey,
sometimes the business equation works out to "you can't afford to use free
software".  But the economic analysis for software is the first unit ye
sell costs a zillion dollars because of how much software development
costs.  Unit two and after cost fractions of a cent--copies of "packaged"
software are almost free to manufacture for the capitalist who own the IP.
If you can stick it to the man, stick it to the man on general principle
and pay as little as legally permissible for a license.  The man still
makes a little money given the 'classical' analysis of manufacturing
software.

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 10:13 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Of course, Microsoft wants you to go out and pay $200 a seat licenses as
> "perceived value", but if you're broke (or just cheap or know better),
> they'll take a few bucks too.  They're not choosy as they're printing money
> for themselves anyways.
>
> If you're the kind of person that likes overspending on an expensive purse
> to feel better, feel free and spend that $200 for windoze, but I've paid
> more than enough of the microsoft tax in my life on systems that only ran
> linux, they can cough me up a cheap vm license to run visio in.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 8:45 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. 10 is only $7. And I thought it was so much more.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 10:13 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> > Why not Qemu?
>>>
>>> Just a simple option for a desktop user really (consider the source
>>> asking), much easier to learn and manage than qemu with virtmanager.
>>> Virtualbox *is* Oracle though, and about the only thing more evil is
>>> (maybe) Microsoft and Fakebook (Satan is down on the evil list these days).
>>>
>>> Only real trap with virtualbox (that I know) is to NOT use the extension
>>> pack, as that puts you into their commercial licensing, and they have gone
>>> out of their way to commit bored lawyers to actually sue organizations for
>>> using it (meaning they likely have spyware built-in that phones home
>>> reporting it).
>>>
>>> I'm all for qemu over virtualbox as a more advanced option when someone
>>> is ready to get more into the weeds, but not on a desktop system, and at
>>> that point might as well use proxmox with qemu if dedicated.
>>>
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 5:40 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 4 Jul 2023 08:07:17 -0700
>>>>
>>>> >Agreed, use Virtualbox,
>>>>
>>>> Why not Qemu?
>>>>
>>>> SteveT
>>>>
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