Since you're use case is mostly to support your development workflow, you
might look at Vagrant:

https://developer.hashicorp.com/vagrant/tutorials/getting-started/getting-started-install

It sits on top of VirtualBox and makes setup and teardown of dev
environments fairly trivial.  Well, trivial after you've worked through the
initial setup steps.

- Austin

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 7:42 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> As you probably know I am struggling to configure Oracle's VirtualBox
> for web development testing.
>
> VirtualBox is a mess.  I cannot get it to work for PHP testing.  It will
> either work external so I can build the server OR I can make it visible
> to my local net and I am not able to pull in any packages.
>
> My expectation was that I could download and install VB then create a
> guest instance and configure my VM as I like, and in my case I want to
> have it have an IP on my local private network, and be able to put that
> IP in my browser and do some testing.
>
> VirtualBox in my opinion is what is wrong with technology.  I've said it
> before and I'll say it again, technology has become too difficult.  Case
> in point, last year I configured a full-stack host in my home office.
> This was complete with BIND, Postfix, and Dovecot.  With a little
> studying Bind is doable. Postfix, and Dovecot on the other hand are
> total enigmas.  I probably need to spend 30 or 40 hours to understand
> setting up and configuring Postfix, and Dovecot.
>
> I was able to get things to work, however I still do not know how.
>
> PHP is the same in my opinion.  To be a PHP dev requires a large stack
> of technologies.  I'm starting to feel the barrier to entry is too high.
>   About 3 years ago I attended several AzPHP meetings and I was amazed to
> discover that the top programmers actually were embracing this level of
> complexity. There was one guy,who is accomplished, that actually looked
> down on anyone who was not at his level.  Yikes!!
>
> I'm talking about things like Composer and dependency injection.  Anyone
> know there is three ways to configure and use dependency injection.  I
> do not recall all 3 off the top of my head.
>
> CodeIgniter 1 and 2 used dependency injection in a way that hid the
> complexities of dependency injection.  It was so subtle that you don't
> even know you are implementing dependency injection.
>
> I really liked CodeIgniter 1 and 2.  It hid the complexities of web
> development and was the closest thing I've seen in web development that
> was rapid application development (RAD).
>
> One of the things I really liked about CodeIgniter  was it's simplicity.
>   A middle school kid could learn enough about it in a weekend to start
> building something.
>
> Back to VirtualBox... It is entirely too complicated and I'm not sure
> why.  Can anyone shed light on this?
>
> I read that everyone should learn how to program.  Why?  Programming
> itself is simple... doing anything remotely useful requires you get down
> into the mud of the complexities of building an application.
>
> I fell in love with programming at the UofA in 1983.  I feel in love
> with Linux in 1998 when a friend told me about it. Yes I'm old. And I've
> seen a lot.
>
> What was VirtualBox created for and does it need to be so complex?
>
> Keith
>
>
>
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