They don't recommend it either, but if you have a dev workstation and need
advanced VM and container needs it works well.

The use case I can see as the most applicable is when using the advanced
Software-defined networking options that it can do and having other
machines for the main workload so you can do your testing from a single
machine or array of VMs'

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 3:46 PM Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> I personally would refrain from installing X windows on the host. There's
> nothing that you'll be able to do from xwindows that you can't do from the
> web interface, and running that will just take away resources that you'd
> otherwise be able to use for your virtual machines. Additionally, you might
> find yourself fighting with Proxmox as it expects to be able to control
> things like networking which your chosen desktop environment might
> interfere with.
>
> Proxmox under the hood also doesn't use standard libvirt or lxc resources,
> so if your reason for installing it is to use the virtualization features
> outside the web interface then you're also going to be stepping on
> Proxmox's internal processes.
>
> If you want a machine that you can login to to do otherwise random things,
> just create a VM or container and connect to that. Otherwise treat Proxmox
> as an appliance, like you would a VMware Hypervisor host, and you'll have a
> much better time with it.
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022, at 8:34 PM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>
> So. Proxmox under the hood is Debian. Virtualization only allow you to
> stack workloads proxmox has an extra layer of being set up to run
> containers as well as vms. That can run lean and share resources better.
> Bet part of this is you can install it on anything you can install Debian
> on. They even have docs on how to install x windows and run it as you a
> daily workstation as well as VM host.
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022, 10:35 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
> I have an i3 with 2 cores and 4 threads running an SSD.  Seems like too
> few resources for Proxmox?  Your thoughts?
>
>
> On 2022-10-09 10:29, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > On Sun, 2022-10-09 at 06:50 -0700, keith Miller via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >> Couple of items, I've used Promox for about 4-5 years  now, very nice
> >> hypervisor have had no problems what soever
> >> I current run it on a Dell R-610 with 96Gig of ram and 6TB of HD,
> >> hosting 5
> >> linux servers and desktopsetup with about 8 domains and 1 email server
> >> all
> >> are Linux based, the mail server is awesome
> >> system called Zimbra completely free, I'm hosting a number of open
> >> source
> >> decentralized social network, Peertube (Youtube work alike) , Mastodon
> >> (Socal Network) , Piwigo (Picture hosting), OSSN (Social Network)
> >> , WebTrees (Geniology), OsClass script (ForSale/Want ads), Simple
> >> Machines
> >> (Forum), WordPress (Blogging site)
> >> So I use it alot
> >
> > Hi Keith,
> >
> > The Proxmox docs seem to strongly encourage using RAID, but I have no
> > business
> > justification for the time and money involved in RAID. How well or
> > poorly will it
> > work just operating off 250GB SSD for / and a 6TB 7200rpm spinning rust
> > for the
> > rest?
> >
> > Also, space is at a premium in my house. Can I admin a Proxmox machine
> > connected to
> > my LAN, via the web interface, from my Daily Driver Desktop (DDD) also
> > connected to
> > my lan? I'd like to run my Proxmox machine headless except for very
> > rare
> > troubleshooting.
> >
> > I have a 2 core AMD machine with 16GB RAM and about 6TB of 7200
> > spinning rust just
> > hanging around (it's my old DDD). Do you think that would be sufficient
> > for just
> > fooling around with?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > SteveT
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