if your gonna play with it, a server can be had DIRT cheap the R-610 I got on amazon for 150.00 32Gig of ram and 2 320Gig drive (Which I upgraded I have another server for more play bought it on craigslist from a guy for 70.00 HP DL360G7, it has 4 2tb drives and 32Gig ram al this mounted in a half rack, along with a 24 ports (1gig) Netgear GS724TI bought at goodwill for $9.99 Keith On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 6:48 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Very exciting what we are to do with modern hardware. > > > On 2022-10-09 03:43, Stephen Partington wrote: > > I have run proxmox on Mac minis 4 cores/8 threads and originally 8gm > > ram. I upgraded ram heavily and stuffed in an ssd to run as a lvm > > cache to the 5400 1t drive and it performed well as a home lab server > > for years. > > > > All the rest is use case recommended for a server. Possibly in > > production. > > > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2022, 9:08 PM wrote: > > > >> That sounds scary. > >> > >> Ok, so I am coming away with a vCPU is = to a thread. RAM is > >> fixed. I > >> read Proxmox requires 2GB of RAM and I was unable to determine the > >> number of cores for Proxmox. > >> > >> Proxmox says you will need Intel EMT64 or AMD64 with Intel VT/AMD-V > >> CPU > >> flag. > >> > >> They suggest SSD disks, and redundant Gbit NICs. I assume along > >> these > >> lines you would want redundant power supplies. > >> > >> Another Question : > >> > >> I have a Cox business connection that allows me to run servers and > >> to be > >> allocated more than 1 static IP. > >> > >> I can see me configuring at least 4 virtual machines for LAMP - PHP > >> testing and development, and a VM for a real website. Not all of > >> these > >> VMs would be active at once. > >> > >> Since I would be running this out of my home office, to be safe, I > >> would > >> need enough RAM to allocate 4GB of RAM of reach _active_ VM and 2 > >> vCPUs, > >> and to be safe maybe 4GB of ram and 2 cores for Proxmox. > >> > >> For 4 simultaneously active VMs I would need 8vCPUs (8 threads) and > >> 4GB > >> of RAM each or 16GB of RAM. Add to that 2 Cores/4 threads and 4GB > >> of > >> RAM for Proxmox and I would need 12 threads or 6 cores and 20GB of > >> RAM. > >> > >> I'm thinking a 500GB SSD would be enough and if I like I could add a > >> > >> redundant NIC and a redundant power supply. > >> > >> Pretty much a consumer grade box? > >> > >> Your thoughts? > >> > >> On 2022-10-07 18:23, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: > >>> Hit reply too soon. You can share or overprovision ram but you > >> have to > >>> enable some features and load a couple of os level drivers to make > >> it > >>> work. > >>> > >>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 9:22 PM Stephen Partington > >> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> And you can share ram across containers not vms. > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 9:21 PM Stephen Partington > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> i love proxmox.have used it fir years > >>>> > >>>> The vcou is socket x cores x2 if you have hyperv/smt > >>>> > >>>> So a 4 core ht cpu would be 8vcpu. > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 7:35 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> I just watched a video that covered the Proxmox Hypervisor. > >> Seems > >>>> simple enough. I've used Oracle's VirtualBox for years. > >>>> > >>>> So I did some research on what a vCPU is. I was suppressed. The > >>>> math > >>>> given was (Threads x Cores) x Physical CPU = Number vCPU. > >>>> > >>>> I have an old laptop that has 1 socket, 2 cores, four threads, > >> and > >>>> 4GB > >>>> of RAM. > >>>> > >>>> Given the math (4 x 2) x 1 = 8 vCPUS. Is this correct? > >>>> > >>>> From my reading it appears that RAM is not shared, so my > >> bottleneck > >>>> is > >>>> RAM not cores or threads. > >>>> > >>>> I am a PHP developer and a local vps would need 2GB of RAM at a > >>>> minimum. > >>>> I have found a LAMP VPS will crash if allocated less than 2GB of > >>>> RAM, > >>>> and will run will on 1 vCPU. > >>>> > >>>> The good news is I really only need one VPS to be active at any > >>>> given > >>>> time. > >>>> > >>>> If I wanted to build a box that could run more than one VPS at a > >>>> time, > >>>> lets say 4, and I wanted to allocate 2 vCPUs and 4GB of RAM I > >> would > >>>> need > >>>> 4 threads x 2 cores to run the 4 VPS configured with 2 vCPUs > >> each. > >>>> > >>>> What about RAM. Looks like I would need a minimum of 16GB of > >> ram. > >>>> > >>>> How much resources does the Hypervisor need, in this case > >> Proxmox? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks!! > >>>> Keith > >>>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Keith D. Miller