Haha, thanks!

On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 3:44 PM Snyder, Alexander J <
alexander@snyderfamily.co> wrote:

> Unless there are glued in place, I invite you to apply some elbow grease
> to it!
>
> That'll get 'er!
>
> Thanks,
> Alexander.
>
> Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G
>
> On Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 13:29 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> It's not that I don't want to replace it. It is just that the screws
>> holding the board in place are too securely tight. I will spend the $40 to
>> have it replaced.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 3:16 PM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve is correct, you should replace the battery or replace the
>>> hardware. An improper time at boot can cause any number of “wonky” things,
>>> but also opens up some VERY nasty security attacks that revolve around
>>> timing. It is difficult and time consuming to get a system out of time with
>>> NTP running (which it should be by default on most Linux distros) when the
>>> boot time is “correct (within a few hundred milliseconds to 2 seconds)”. It
>>> is very easy to keep a system off time and continuously lie to it when
>>> relying on a plaintext software protocol alone.
>>>
>>> If you don’t want to replace the battery, you should look at replacing
>>> the board.
>>>
>>> Mac
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>>> On Thursday, Dec 23, 2021 at 2:16 PM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>> Michael via PLUG-discuss said on Thu, 23 Dec 2021 12:03:19 -0500
>>>
>>> How does one set it up so that arch doesn't need a cmos battery. Mine
>>> is going belly-up and I don't want to replace it. I was thinking I
>>> shouldn't need to with NTP. What do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://lmgtfy.app/#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=how%20to%20set%20up%20ntp%20in%20linux
>>>
>>> Not that the preceding link will help you. The time jumps involved
>>> in going from 1970 or whatever to the current time, on every cold boot,
>>> mess with all sorts of programs and processes. Plus the fact that a low
>>> battery could mess with the rest of your non-time settings. It's not
>>> inconceivable that wrong settings could cause filesystem damage (are
>>> you thoroughly and currently backed up?) and even hardware damage.
>>>
>>> A coin battery is available for about five bucks at any drug store. If
>>> you live 100 miles from a drug store, consider
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/132704000819?epid=22021694267
>>>
>>> WARNING: My computer uses a CR2032 battery, I think most computers do,
>>> but your computer might be different. To find out, remove necessary
>>> screws to get to the motherboard, taking photos at each stage so you
>>> know how to put it back together. Before removing the old battery, take
>>> a photo of the battery mounted on the motherboard. See
>>> https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000239.htm for info how to remove
>>> the battery. If the preceding URL doesn't give you the necessary info,
>>> perform a web search on the following words:
>>>
>>> how to remove the cmos battery from a motherboard
>>>
>>> Search the preceding words.
>>>
>>> SteveT
>>>
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