Unless there are glued in place, I invite you to apply some elbow grease to
it!

That'll get 'er!

Thanks,
Alexander.

Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G

On Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 13:29 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> It's not that I don't want to replace it. It is just that the screws
> holding the board in place are too securely tight. I will spend the $40 to
> have it replaced.
>
> On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 3:16 PM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Steve is correct, you should replace the battery or replace the hardware.
>> An improper time at boot can cause any number of “wonky” things, but also
>> opens up some VERY nasty security attacks that revolve around timing. It is
>> difficult and time consuming to get a system out of time with NTP running
>> (which it should be by default on most Linux distros) when the boot time is
>> “correct (within a few hundred milliseconds to 2 seconds)”. It is very easy
>> to keep a system off time and continuously lie to it when relying on a
>> plaintext software protocol alone.
>>
>> If you don’t want to replace the battery, you should look at replacing
>> the board.
>>
>> Mac
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>> On Thursday, Dec 23, 2021 at 2:16 PM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>> Michael via PLUG-discuss said on Thu, 23 Dec 2021 12:03:19 -0500
>>
>> How does one set it up so that arch doesn't need a cmos battery. Mine
>> is going belly-up and I don't want to replace it. I was thinking I
>> shouldn't need to with NTP. What do you think?
>>
>>
>> https://lmgtfy.app/#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=how%20to%20set%20up%20ntp%20in%20linux
>>
>> Not that the preceding link will help you. The time jumps involved
>> in going from 1970 or whatever to the current time, on every cold boot,
>> mess with all sorts of programs and processes. Plus the fact that a low
>> battery could mess with the rest of your non-time settings. It's not
>> inconceivable that wrong settings could cause filesystem damage (are
>> you thoroughly and currently backed up?) and even hardware damage.
>>
>> A coin battery is available for about five bucks at any drug store. If
>> you live 100 miles from a drug store, consider
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/132704000819?epid=22021694267
>>
>> WARNING: My computer uses a CR2032 battery, I think most computers do,
>> but your computer might be different. To find out, remove necessary
>> screws to get to the motherboard, taking photos at each stage so you
>> know how to put it back together. Before removing the old battery, take
>> a photo of the battery mounted on the motherboard. See
>> https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000239.htm for info how to remove
>> the battery. If the preceding URL doesn't give you the necessary info,
>> perform a web search on the following words:
>>
>> how to remove the cmos battery from a motherboard
>>
>> Search the preceding words.
>>
>> SteveT
>>
>> Steve Litt
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>> Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques
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