hmmmm.... I just found out why boot is so quick with arch (or at least MY arch). It is because I only have internet over the wire. It does not have wifi enabled and therefore does not have to wait to connect. I learned this today as I sit in my Wyndham researching getting wifi going so I can bring the computer with me to subsequent visits and then have two computers (laptop and NUC). On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 11:14 AM Michael wrote: > hmmmm.... I just found out why boot is so quick with arch (or at least MY > arch). It is > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:53 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> I rather like using Arch linux with rolling updates, and have now about 5 >> years. It's not always without its pain, but mostly is great to use daily. >> >> Usually after using it for a while, installing a lot of various software >> outside base repos, and then updating for me has been problematic. Usually >> dependency recursion issues, often because community packages that are not >> well maintained, so hardly core arch's fault, but seems could be better. >> My desktop became a brick after several years with some still unknown >> updates, but my laptop has been great, luckily as it was my fallback, and >> now my everything box I work on. This compared to every 6mo-1yr with a >> dist release for ubuntu/deb/etc that I usually plan a long weekend or week >> off to update, as I know it will break things, usually badly. Arch hasn't >> been too bad comparatively to the past 10 years of ubuntu. >> >> When it works normally, it's great, and mostly updates with a clean os >> are simple if I do them often enough. Most of the folks chatting with in >> the arch irc seem to update weekly with no issue, whereas I update about >> every 6 months, which they scold me for anyways. I should if for nothing >> else security, but Dr's make the worst patients, and in some cases imho I >> have good reasons to not reboot commonly how I work. >> >> The install too is a bit complex if you're not totally comfortable in >> linux, but a basic install is quite easy following basic directions, or you >> can just use manjaro arch distro with a full desktop installer. I still >> like learning, so I don't mind this, and arch taught me a lot more still. >> I get jiggy doing full-disk encryption and custom disk setups, which even >> for me took a while to figure out, but once installed and booting, is easy >> enough to maintain outside the above comments on updates. >> >> Arch also tends to get you the latest kernel (drivers/firmware) and >> desktop features, which is nice vs. ubuntu being always quite dated. When >> I find even new software out there, it's rare I don't find a community >> build of it available as an easy install for arch already, which is really >> nice, even eww things like microsoft teams. >> >> I too am glad to help others that want to try arch on the list here or in >> plug irc. The arch channel irc folks can be a bit prickly, I'd recommend >> keeping basic questions more local. :) >> >> -mb >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 9:40 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss < >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> I wish I would have learned about Arch Linux when I first got into >>> Linux. My current computer took 30 seconds to load from when it first >>> starts loading to GUI while arch takes about 22 seconds. Further I would >>> have learned about compiling the applications. It will be difficult now >>> because I am over 50 and my mind was not used much in my 40's. I say this >>> to all you young bucks out there as a warning and an encouragement to try >>> arch (and you old bucks who haven't wasted your mind). If you don't want to >>> compile stuff with arch download the ISO.... start it.... and at the >>> command prompt type archinstall. Another good learning tool is Linux From >>> Scratch. That one you compile EVERYTHING from source. The real learning for >>> LFS starts after you compile everything and start configuring stuff >>> (chapter 9). >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: