hmmmm.... I just found out why boot is so quick with arch (or at least MY arch). It is On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:53 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > I rather like using Arch linux with rolling updates, and have now about 5 > years. It's not always without its pain, but mostly is great to use daily. > > Usually after using it for a while, installing a lot of various software > outside base repos, and then updating for me has been problematic. Usually > dependency recursion issues, often because community packages that are not > well maintained, so hardly core arch's fault, but seems could be better. > My desktop became a brick after several years with some still unknown > updates, but my laptop has been great, luckily as it was my fallback, and > now my everything box I work on. This compared to every 6mo-1yr with a > dist release for ubuntu/deb/etc that I usually plan a long weekend or week > off to update, as I know it will break things, usually badly. Arch hasn't > been too bad comparatively to the past 10 years of ubuntu. > > When it works normally, it's great, and mostly updates with a clean os are > simple if I do them often enough. Most of the folks chatting with in the > arch irc seem to update weekly with no issue, whereas I update about every > 6 months, which they scold me for anyways. I should if for nothing else > security, but Dr's make the worst patients, and in some cases imho I have > good reasons to not reboot commonly how I work. > > The install too is a bit complex if you're not totally comfortable in > linux, but a basic install is quite easy following basic directions, or you > can just use manjaro arch distro with a full desktop installer. I still > like learning, so I don't mind this, and arch taught me a lot more still. > I get jiggy doing full-disk encryption and custom disk setups, which even > for me took a while to figure out, but once installed and booting, is easy > enough to maintain outside the above comments on updates. > > Arch also tends to get you the latest kernel (drivers/firmware) and > desktop features, which is nice vs. ubuntu being always quite dated. When > I find even new software out there, it's rare I don't find a community > build of it available as an easy install for arch already, which is really > nice, even eww things like microsoft teams. > > I too am glad to help others that want to try arch on the list here or in > plug irc. The arch channel irc folks can be a bit prickly, I'd recommend > keeping basic questions more local. :) > > -mb > > > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 9:40 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> I wish I would have learned about Arch Linux when I first got into Linux. >> My current computer took 30 seconds to load from when it first starts >> loading to GUI while arch takes about 22 seconds. Further I would have >> learned about compiling the applications. It will be difficult now because >> I am over 50 and my mind was not used much in my 40's. I say this to all >> you young bucks out there as a warning and an encouragement to try arch >> (and you old bucks who haven't wasted your mind). If you don't want to >> compile stuff with arch download the ISO.... start it.... and at the >> command prompt type archinstall. Another good learning tool is Linux From >> Scratch. That one you compile EVERYTHING from source. The real learning for >> LFS starts after you compile everything and start configuring stuff >> (chapter 9). >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: