I would +1 the zfs arrangement on this configuration as well. I am still rather new to zfs filesystems, but my VM host is really happy with zfs. My configuration using zraid and a pair of SSD's for storage tiering has been very nice as a balance. For a laptop that may meet your needs, I would suggest looking into the Thinkpad T51g. 8 core CPU, Nvidia 2070 or 2080 graphics (nice to have performance graphics without having to deal with Quadro prices), 4 SODIMM slots, 2 thunderbolt, 1USBc connected to the GPU, 2 M.2 slots, a fingerprint sensor, and various workstation extras. Let me know if you have any questions as I happen to have one. On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 9:55 PM Matthew Crews via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > On 6/23/21 5:18 PM, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > Saw this today, talking about encryption under zfs under linux. Anyone > > using it here that can comment on experience using it yet for personal > > or at scale? > > > > > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/a-quick-start-guide-to-openzfs-native-encryption/ > > < > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/a-quick-start-guide-to-openzfs-native-encryption/ > > > > > > I use a combination of mdraid+luks+lvm+ext4/jfs, and would really love > > for this to be one thing, ala ZFS or BTRFS. Yes I could google my arse > > off to look, but looking for some trusted opinion here. > > I've used ZFS and BTRFS under Linux, though I haven't tried native ZFS > encryption yet. I have used both ZFS and BTRFS under LUKS encryption too. > > Both BTRFS and ZFS work so much nicer than mdraid when it comes to > spanning across multiple disks (though beware that BTRFS still isn't > production safe for RAID5/RAID6). > > If you want to use a multi-disk storage array, ZFS and BTRFS are both > superior options to MDRAID. > > However ZFS is just straight better and easier to maintain than BTRFS, > especially now that native encryption is a thing (something BTRFS sorely > lacks). > > > > Here is my disk topology for my 4 disk RAID10 setup under BTRFS. > > Disk 1 - LUKS - Btrfs --\ /--Btrfs subvolume > | | > Disk 2 - LUKS - Btrfs --| |--Btrfs subvolume > |--- Btrfs volume --| > Disk 3 - LUKS - Btrfs --| |--Btrfs subvolume > | | > Disk 4 - LUKS - Btrfs --/ \--Btrfs subvolume > > To be honest, it is a pain in the arse to mount an encrypted BTRFS > volume this way. You need to unencrypt all four drives first, and then > you need to mount it. But at least once its mounted, the subvolumes are > already set up. > > If I need to replace a drive (and I've had to replace drives) it is also > a pain in the arse due to having to deal with both Luks and BTRFS. > > Encrypted ZFS would simplify this setup enormously. > > When I need to replace my drives, I will be switching from BTRFS to ZFS. > > > -Matt > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen