This is also a great read on disk technology. https://www.backblaze.com/b2/hard-drive-test-data.html On Wed, Dec 30, 2020, 9:19 PM Todd Cole via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > I was incorrect it is a Thecus N5200 > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 9:04 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> What model? >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020, 6:30 PM Todd Cole via PLUG-discuss < >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> I have been using ZFS almost two years on servers and it is easy to deal >>> with drive replacements. I have even switched my desktops and laptops to >>> ubuntu 20.04 ZFS for the snapshots. >>> Issues are learning ZFS and Raids they are not real hard to learn but >>> then replacing drives as they fail = Time vs money saved Do you have the >>> Time to learn and spend swapping? >>> I have a old synology NAS you or someone else can have that can be >>> updated to debian and ZFS 5 bay hot swap, great way to start out >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 5:59 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss < >>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>> >>>> How many drive are you looking to spin up at one time? Across how many >>>> machines? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020, 5:39 PM Seabass via PLUG-discuss < >>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That is a good question. >>>>> Probably not, though. >>>>> >>>>> Have a software raid version? I need to check what these have, but I >>>>> don't think there is much beyond raid1 and raid0. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>>> On Dec 30, 2020, 4:02 PM, Rusty Ramser < rusty_ramser@hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, Seabass. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> RAID-6 comes to mind, since it will support two disk failures >>>>> simultaneously... and it sounds like you just may experience that with >>>>> these disks. Does your disk controller hardware/software support >>>>> configuring a RAID-6 array? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Seabass via PLUG-discuss >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 31 December 2020 11:01 >>>>> *To:* plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> *Cc:* Seabass >>>>> *Subject:* Built for Failure >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Weird question: >>>>> >>>>> I can get a bunch of ancient (~2013) HDDs. Each have varying amounts >>>>> of space, and few (if any) are ever the same size. >>>>> >>>>> These were marked to be disposed, though that is just because of age >>>>> or having plenty that are better. Thus I can take them. However, them being >>>>> this old, and having found about 3 that eventually broke or never worked, >>>>> I'm left with this question: >>>>> >>>>> Because purchasing new drives takes too long (no idea when/if they >>>>> would arrive), I can take as many of the decommissioned drives I'd like. >>>>> Seeing as some failed, how does one build a system that is resilient to >>>>> drives failing? >>>>> >>>>> It can be reset as much as wanted, hardware is literally in arm's >>>>> reach, and there is not burning need for it to be up immediately. >>>>> There is also massive (comparatively) external drive space and as many >>>>> live boot USBs as one might desire. >>>>> >>>>> So how would one build a system that is designed expecting HDD failure >>>>> regularly? >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Todd Cole >>> Ubuntu Arizona Team >>> 2928 W El Caminito >>> Phoenix AZ 85051-3957 >>> toddc@azloco.com >>> 602-677-9402 >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > Todd Cole > Ubuntu Arizona Team > 2928 W El Caminito > Phoenix AZ 85051-3957 > toddc@azloco.com > 602-677-9402 > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss