73 is still almost 30 degrees under the thermal shutdown. so that is relatively safe. On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:50 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > there is a fan on it and it maxes at 73 with the blue kitty in glmark2 > but usually stays below 68 > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:48 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss > > wrote: > > > > Hows the temperature of your video card? Does it have a fan on it? > > > > Brian > > > > On 7/16/20 1:41 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > > > > > Might the problem still be the he > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:37 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> > >> 68C under load is good. 80C+ idle is bad. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> lets get back to heat... last time I was running glx (with the horse > >>> and various other pictures) and watch, and stress ng the temp was like > >>> 68. I don't think that is too bad. > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:19 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Looks like your drive probably isn't the problem. > >>> > > >>> > Brian Cluff > >>> > > >>> > On 7/16/20 11:54 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > >>> > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:37 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > >> Also check the health of your hard drive with smartctl. I've hard > >>> > >> systems freeze on me because my hard drive was dying that then > appear to > >>> > >> work again for a while after a reboot. Basically your drive > starts > >>> > >> throwing errors and eventually the system remounts it as read > only and > >>> > >> your system eventually freaks out and freezes because it can't > write to > >>> > >> the drive anymore. > >>> > > I sure hope this is the problem. It'll give me an excuse to put an > ssd > >>> > > in the machine. > >>> > > This is from live media boot. I'll see if I can freeze the system > >>> > > again.... it did when I tried it before but it hasn't frozen for a > >>> > > couple of days now. > >>> > > sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda > >>> > > smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [x86_64-linux-5.4.0-26-generic] > (local build) > >>> > > Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, > www.smartmontools.org > >>> > > > >>> > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > >>> > > Model Family: Western Digital Caviar Blue (SATA) > >>> > > Device Model: WDC WD3200AAKS-75L9A0 > >>> > > Serial Number: WD-WMAV2S110171 > >>> > > LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 057775228 > >>> > > Firmware Version: 02.03E02 > >>> > > User Capacity: 320,072,933,376 bytes [320 GB] > >>> > > Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical > >>> > > Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] > >>> > > ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated) > >>> > > SATA Version is: SATA 2.5, 3.0 Gb/s > >>> > > Local Time is: Thu Jul 16 18:33:20 2020 UTC > >>> > > SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. > >>> > > SMART support is: Enabled > >>> > > > >>> > > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === > >>> > > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED > >>> > > > >>> > > General SMART Values: > >>> > > Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection > activity > >>> > > was suspended by an interrupting command from > host. > >>> > > Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. > >>> > > Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test > >>> > > routine completed > >>> > > without error or no self-test has ever > >>> > > been run. > >>> > > Total time to complete Offline > >>> > > data collection: ( 6000) seconds. > >>> > > Offline data collection > >>> > > capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. > >>> > > Auto Offline data collection on/off support. > >>> > > Suspend Offline collection upon new > >>> > > command. > >>> > > Offline surface scan supported. > >>> > > Self-test supported. > >>> > > Conveyance Self-test supported. > >>> > > Selective Self-test supported. > >>> > > SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before > entering > >>> > > power-saving mode. > >>> > > Supports SMART auto save timer. > >>> > > Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. > >>> > > General Purpose Logging supported. > >>> > > Short self-test routine > >>> > > recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. > >>> > > Extended self-test routine > >>> > > recommended polling time: ( 73) minutes. > >>> > > Conveyance self-test routine > >>> > > recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes. > >>> > > SCT capabilities: (0x3037) SCT Status supported. > >>> > > SCT Feature Control supported. > >>> > > SCT Data Table supported. > >>> > > > >>> > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 > >>> > > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: > >>> > > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE > >>> > > UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE > >>> > > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail > >>> > > Always - 0 > >>> > > 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 138 133 021 Pre-fail > >>> > > Always - 4075 > >>> > > 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 089 089 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 11090 > >>> > > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail > >>> > > Always - 0 > >>> > > 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 100 253 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 0 > >>> > > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 019 019 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 59593 > >>> > > 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 0 > >>> > > 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 0 > >>> > > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 2282 > >>> > > 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 199 199 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 1044 > >>> > > 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 197 197 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 11090 > >>> > > 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 105 080 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 38 > >>> > > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 0 > >>> > > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 0 > >>> > > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age > >>> > > Offline - 0 > >>> > > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 0 > >>> > > 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old_age > >>> > > Offline - 0 > >>> > > 240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0032 024 024 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 55990 > >>> > > 241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 78243499218 > >>> > > 242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age > >>> > > Always - 174621575474 > >>> > > > >>> > > SMART Error Log Version: 1 > >>> > > No Errors Logged > >>> > > > >>> > > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > >>> > > Num Test_Description Status Remaining > >>> > > LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error > >>> > > # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% > 14352 - > >>> > > # 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% > 0 - > >>> > > > >>> > > SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 > >>> > > SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS > >>> > > 1 0 0 Not_testing > >>> > > 2 0 0 Not_testing > >>> > > 3 0 0 Not_testing > >>> > > 4 0 0 Not_testing > >>> > > 5 0 0 Not_testing > >>> > > Selective self-test flags (0x0): > >>> > > After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of > disk. > >>> > > If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 > minute delay. > >>> > > > >>> > > Well, I am running glmark2, watch, and stress-ng for about (one > round > >>> > > of glmark2) with no freeze. all from live media > >>> > > -- > >>> > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > >>> > > --------------------------------------------------- > >>> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - 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