68C under load is good. 80C+ idle is bad. On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > lets get back to heat... last time I was running glx (with the horse > and various other pictures) and watch, and stress ng the temp was like > 68. I don't think that is too bad. > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:19 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > > > > Looks like your drive probably isn't the problem. > > > > Brian Cluff > > > > On 7/16/20 11:54 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:37 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss > > > wrote: > > >> Also check the health of your hard drive with smartctl. I've hard > > >> systems freeze on me because my hard drive was dying that then appear > to > > >> work again for a while after a reboot. Basically your drive starts > > >> throwing errors and eventually the system remounts it as read only and > > >> your system eventually freaks out and freezes because it can't write > to > > >> the drive anymore. > > > I sure hope this is the problem. It'll give me an excuse to put an ssd > > > in the machine. > > > This is from live media boot. I'll see if I can freeze the system > > > again.... it did when I tried it before but it hasn't frozen for a > > > couple of days now. > > > sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda > > > smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022 [x86_64-linux-5.4.0-26-generic] (local > build) > > > Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, > www.smartmontools.org > > > > > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > > > Model Family: Western Digital Caviar Blue (SATA) > > > Device Model: WDC WD3200AAKS-75L9A0 > > > Serial Number: WD-WMAV2S110171 > > > LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 057775228 > > > Firmware Version: 02.03E02 > > > User Capacity: 320,072,933,376 bytes [320 GB] > > > Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical > > > Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] > > > ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated) > > > SATA Version is: SATA 2.5, 3.0 Gb/s > > > Local Time is: Thu Jul 16 18:33:20 2020 UTC > > > SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. > > > SMART support is: Enabled > > > > > > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === > > > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED > > > > > > General SMART Values: > > > Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection > activity > > > was suspended by an interrupting command from > host. > > > Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. > > > Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test > > > routine completed > > > without error or no self-test has ever > > > been run. > > > Total time to complete Offline > > > data collection: ( 6000) seconds. > > > Offline data collection > > > capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. > > > Auto Offline data collection on/off support. > > > Suspend Offline collection upon new > > > command. > > > Offline surface scan supported. > > > Self-test supported. > > > Conveyance Self-test supported. > > > Selective Self-test supported. > > > SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before > entering > > > power-saving mode. > > > Supports SMART auto save timer. > > > Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. > > > General Purpose Logging supported. > > > Short self-test routine > > > recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. > > > Extended self-test routine > > > recommended polling time: ( 73) minutes. > > > Conveyance self-test routine > > > recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes. > > > SCT capabilities: (0x3037) SCT Status supported. > > > SCT Feature Control supported. > > > SCT Data Table supported. > > > > > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 > > > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: > > > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE > > > UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE > > > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail > > > Always - 0 > > > 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 138 133 021 Pre-fail > > > Always - 4075 > > > 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 089 089 000 Old_age > > > Always - 11090 > > > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail > > > Always - 0 > > > 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 100 253 000 Old_age > > > Always - 0 > > > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 019 019 000 Old_age > > > Always - 59593 > > > 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age > > > Always - 0 > > > 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age > > > Always - 0 > > > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age > > > Always - 2282 > > > 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 199 199 000 Old_age > > > Always - 1044 > > > 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 197 197 000 Old_age > > > Always - 11090 > > > 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 105 080 000 Old_age > > > Always - 38 > > > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age > > > Always - 0 > > > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age > > > Always - 0 > > > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age > > > Offline - 0 > > > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age > > > Always - 0 > > > 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old_age > > > Offline - 0 > > > 240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0032 024 024 000 Old_age > > > Always - 55990 > > > 241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age > > > Always - 78243499218 > > > 242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age > > > Always - 174621575474 > > > > > > SMART Error Log Version: 1 > > > No Errors Logged > > > > > > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > > > Num Test_Description Status Remaining > > > LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error > > > # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 14352 > - > > > # 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 > - > > > > > > SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 > > > SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS > > > 1 0 0 Not_testing > > > 2 0 0 Not_testing > > > 3 0 0 Not_testing > > > 4 0 0 Not_testing > > > 5 0 0 Not_testing > > > Selective self-test flags (0x0): > > > After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. > > > If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute > delay. > > > > > > Well, I am running glmark2, watch, and stress-ng for about (one round > > > of glmark2) with no freeze. all from live media > > > -- > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - 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