So, until a few months ago, I've been a fan of zoom, great linux support. Well, good enough at least for full bi-directional sharing and remote control. With covid, their various faux pas in relation to security, etc, it's gotten rocky enough I am at the point I need to switch. Problem 1) I cannot log into my account. I go to any web login for them, and it gives me a username, password prompt, ok - then a recaptcha. But the recaptcha never shows up... I simply cannot login, it tells me I didn't fill out the recaptcha. But again I don't see a fscking recaptcha on the site despite how ever much scripting I let in. It simply doesn't seem to work... Insert aggro here. Curious if anyone else has seen this, as this is linux, windoze, android, or ios I've tested. Problem 2) I cannot log in to update my payment info to use it pretty soon. I'm like a month over due with a cc expired, and I still cannot log in to update my payment info. This began 2 months ago, and about every 2 weeks I get a support update to say that due to covid19, they're over worked with _no_other_response_ within 2 months. Whoever runs their support org should be fired. I tried to call a human with the weekend when I have some time, no weekend support, even for revenue generating events. Hmm. I have other annoyances, but the fact that I can't even pay them if I wanted to is a disastrous mess that tells me I should run in another direction. Problem 3) Anything better folks have found lately? I have cash in hand, I just need a not-crappy company. Thanks in advance! -mb