How's the video sharing and remote control capabilities? That is always the issue with linux involved. Teams, UberConf both don't allow remote control, so they're only half-functional imho. Even sharing alone, both were also bad about letting me share one of my 3 displays at a time, only allowing the full 3x display, or a single application at a time. Zoom and WebEx allow me to show each display individually. It's like a feature they don't know exists, but is damn relevant when you have 2-3 displays going at a time. I use hangouts still for my sms as my main number *is* gvoice still, but hangouts, duo, etc have never been too usable, or at least everyone else just went back to the facebook/instagram/whatsapp cartel, or use their work's service ala zoom/webex/etc. I don't care about or use video (no one wants to see me), I just need desktop sharing and remote control to get their stuff working. -mb On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:47 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > We have been using the crap out of it at work, and it does a good job, > simple with minimal extras, but sometimes that's what you need. > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:41 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> Google has been making news again yesterday/today with Google Meet, >> giving free 60min conference calls to folks. Not used it yet, but probably >> should try to see the capabilities. >> >> https://www.blog.google/products/meet/bringing-google-meet-to-more-people/ >> >> -mb >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:24 AM Michael Butash >> wrote: >> >>> > Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI? >>> >>> Right, not in my 20-some years around Cisco. Why I don't do much Cisco >>> anymore. >>> >>> Webex finally pulled its head from it's bung a few years back to figure >>> out how to do screen sharing AND remote control even on linux, and so far >>> for me, is the only other decent/viable conferencing suite outside zoom. I >>> use it with a few customers regularly. I've read WebEx uses the same kinds >>> of "exploiting" the os to launch itself with windows/mac, so same >>> shenanigans. I'd be really interested in seeing someone rip it apart for a >>> security audit. >>> >>> Before Zoom and WebEx figured it out, I was using UberConference for >>> years, they were the original I found that could offer sharing, but never >>> offered remote control which is almost necessary in my line of work. I >>> really liked the service and company, but no remote control and some other >>> quirks (no firefox support a big one) drove me off to zoom finally. >>> >>> M$ Teams sharing is wonky at best and doesn't allow remote control. >>> Microsoft basically throws in the service with o365, so many companies are >>> using it by default, and it always is painful. They even added a linux >>> client, but it was poop and doesn't allow for multiple orgs ala slack, or >>> about any other chat client known to man. Last time I tried it a few >>> months back, it also began crushing my system's cpu's - quality microsoft, >>> thanks for caring about us linux people with your half-assed software. >>> >>> GotoMeeting still doesn't know what linux is or cares I think, luckily >>> no one seems to use them anymore. >>> >>> -mb >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:08 PM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss < >>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI? >>>> >>>> Mac >>>> >>>> der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote on 4/28/20 10:40 PM: >>>> >>>> Am 28. Apr, 2020 schwätzte Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss so: >>>> >>>> moin moin, >>>> >>>> That's not entirely true, I use Webex on Linux, including sharing my >>>> screen, >>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, in the end it worked with Firefox. I had to allow some >>>> JavaScript, >>>> but no completely 3rd party stuff. >>>> >>>> I also didn't need to create an account for authentication. The webex >>>> join >>>> meeting UI sucks pretty badly. >>>> >>>> ciao, >>>> >>>> der.hans >>>> >>>> nearly every day for work. It is true that there's no native client, >>>> though, but the workaround is to use Chrome or a Chrome-based browser (in >>>> my case, Chromium), and Webex is able to use the built-in screen sharing >>>> functionality of Chrome to share your screen. The only caveat I've found is >>>> that you must use Xorg, not Wayland, as Chromium doesn't appear to support >>>> screen capture on Wayland. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2020-04-28 15:20, Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>> >>>> Webex still does not have a Linux client (not even via web), so it is >>>> a no go for me except on my phone, and I can't teach class with a >>>> phone. So still using Zoom. >>>> Phil W >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:32 AM der.hans via PLUG-discuss >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> moin moin, >>>> >>>> I'll be posting something longer and positive about Big Blue Button >>>> ( >>>> hopefully today ), but at this point we're probably all stuck using >>>> a >>>> variety of tools that others get to choose for us. >>>> >>>> Zoom fixed their waiting room security hole and Microsoft is still >>>> learning how to safely display images. >>>> >>>> Both were fixed server side, so the holes should be gone. >>>> >>>> https://citizenlab.ca/2020/04/zooms-waiting-room-vulnerability/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.cyberark.com/threat-research-blog/beware-of-the-gif-account-takeover-vulnerability-in-microsoft-teams/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Anyone know the state of webex? That's popped up for me due to the >>>> recurring zoom issues. >>>> >>>> ciao, >>>> >>>> der.hans >>>> -- >>>> # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org >>>> # It's up to the reader to make the book interesting. >>>> # An author has only the opportunity to make it uninteresting. - >>>> der.hans >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> The Maricopa Community Colleges are now operating fully remotely. We >>>> hope you are safe and healthy during this time. >>>> My in person and hybrid classes are all meeting at the regular times >>>> via remote software. Lab and office hours as well. 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