Google has been making news again yesterday/today with Google Meet, giving free 60min conference calls to folks. Not used it yet, but probably should try to see the capabilities. https://www.blog.google/products/meet/bringing-google-meet-to-more-people/ -mb On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:24 AM Michael Butash wrote: > > Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI? > > Right, not in my 20-some years around Cisco. Why I don't do much Cisco > anymore. > > Webex finally pulled its head from it's bung a few years back to figure > out how to do screen sharing AND remote control even on linux, and so far > for me, is the only other decent/viable conferencing suite outside zoom. I > use it with a few customers regularly. I've read WebEx uses the same kinds > of "exploiting" the os to launch itself with windows/mac, so same > shenanigans. I'd be really interested in seeing someone rip it apart for a > security audit. > > Before Zoom and WebEx figured it out, I was using UberConference for > years, they were the original I found that could offer sharing, but never > offered remote control which is almost necessary in my line of work. I > really liked the service and company, but no remote control and some other > quirks (no firefox support a big one) drove me off to zoom finally. > > M$ Teams sharing is wonky at best and doesn't allow remote control. > Microsoft basically throws in the service with o365, so many companies are > using it by default, and it always is painful. They even added a linux > client, but it was poop and doesn't allow for multiple orgs ala slack, or > about any other chat client known to man. Last time I tried it a few > months back, it also began crushing my system's cpu's - quality microsoft, > thanks for caring about us linux people with your half-assed software. > > GotoMeeting still doesn't know what linux is or cares I think, luckily no > one seems to use them anymore. > > -mb > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:08 PM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI? >> >> Mac >> >> der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote on 4/28/20 10:40 PM: >> >> Am 28. Apr, 2020 schwätzte Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss so: >> >> moin moin, >> >> That's not entirely true, I use Webex on Linux, including sharing my >> screen, >> >> >> Yeah, in the end it worked with Firefox. I had to allow some JavaScript, >> but no completely 3rd party stuff. >> >> I also didn't need to create an account for authentication. The webex >> join >> meeting UI sucks pretty badly. >> >> ciao, >> >> der.hans >> >> nearly every day for work. It is true that there's no native client, >> though, but the workaround is to use Chrome or a Chrome-based browser (in >> my case, Chromium), and Webex is able to use the built-in screen sharing >> functionality of Chrome to share your screen. The only caveat I've found is >> that you must use Xorg, not Wayland, as Chromium doesn't appear to support >> screen capture on Wayland. >> >> >> On 2020-04-28 15:20, Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> >> Webex still does not have a Linux client (not even via web), so it is >> a no go for me except on my phone, and I can't teach class with a >> phone. So still using Zoom. >> Phil W >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:32 AM der.hans via PLUG-discuss >> >> wrote: >> >> moin moin, >> >> I'll be posting something longer and positive about Big Blue Button >> ( >> hopefully today ), but at this point we're probably all stuck using >> a >> variety of tools that others get to choose for us. >> >> Zoom fixed their waiting room security hole and Microsoft is still >> learning how to safely display images. >> >> Both were fixed server side, so the holes should be gone. >> >> https://citizenlab.ca/2020/04/zooms-waiting-room-vulnerability/ >> >> >> >> https://www.cyberark.com/threat-research-blog/beware-of-the-gif-account-takeover-vulnerability-in-microsoft-teams/ >> >> >> Anyone know the state of webex? That's popped up for me due to the >> recurring zoom issues. >> >> ciao, >> >> der.hans >> -- >> # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org >> # It's up to the reader to make the book interesting. >> # An author has only the opportunity to make it uninteresting. - >> der.hans >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> -- >> >> The Maricopa Community Colleges are now operating fully remotely. We >> hope you are safe and healthy during this time. >> My in person and hybrid classes are all meeting at the regular times >> via remote software. Lab and office hours as well. 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