Well, it was a few years ago, maybe M$ finally made it functional, but originally WSL had no network support. WTF would I want a modern OS, even linux in emulation, to NOT have networking? Even using vbox under windoze running ubuntu linux was very destructive to performance, I was hoping WSL to be a decent medium. At some point I'll boot over to the original windoze partition, maybe sooner than later with this laptop being a hot mess and everything else on Arch I own. I probably should update the win os, bios, and things on it at least. -mb On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 3:48 PM Stephen Partington wrote: > weird. I currently have no issues with networking. and technically it is > not an emulation layer. It is supposed to be an api set or something that > runs a Linux kernel under windows natively. > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:42 PM Michael Butash wrote: > >> Last time I tried WSL was with getting this laptop a few years ago. As a >> network guy, I sort of just sat there stunned that the frigging thing >> couldn't network. Why the hell would you make a linux emulation layer that >> couldn't network? Is this still Ballmer-hate? >> >> What the hell is good in this day and age without networking? I don't >> see how they even shipped it as a thing without network support. >> >> This and other major things like I said visual lag in the gui, with >> up-to-date os, drivers, etc shipped from dell, was utter shite, and just >> angered me. It was graphically unusable to me. I gave windoze a solid 2 >> weeks as a trial, just to see, and it was garbage to try and be >> productive. It really didn't like when I was layer on VM's in vbox, which >> usually I have 5-8 vm's at a time running in my main system, and it fell >> apart. >> >> People ask why I bother with linux. Because windoze can't do the things >> I do in linux, like run 10 vm's of different os's and still game on steam. >> I've ran linux on a desktop as my main rig since 2006, as well as dealing >> with entirely windoze enterprise worlds, so I like to think I have some >> knowledge of this. >> >> -mb >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:44 AM Stephen Partington >> wrote: >> >>> well microsoft has made good improvements with WSL and you can do some >>> neat things like that >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:27 AM Michael Butash >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Upgrading to 18.04 broke like everything for me (kde, wm, graphics >>>> drivers), it's what single-handedly drove me to arch, so ymmv. >>>> >>>> My experience with arch hasn't been much better of late, so take it for >>>> what you will. Arch updates blew up my desktop, and my laptop I'm afraid >>>> to reboot as my last working device. If I didn't hate windoze so much, I >>>> might actually try it again, but it's performance on my xps15 was absolute >>>> shite with the 4k display. Like mouse lag randomly just to screw with me >>>> and slow down everything working. >>>> >>>> -mb >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 9:13 PM Stephen Partington >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It is most definitely 64 bit. I had 64 bit 16.04 running like a champ >>>>> until the 18.04 upgrade was done. >>>>> >>>>> It also ran vmware 6.7 well also. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019, 9:02 PM Thomas Scott >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I know I had a legacy install on a Proliant I supported that was >>>>>> installed upside down and burnt out it's drives after a few years >>>>>> (surprised it lasted that long). When I came on-site to reinstall it, I >>>>>> tried to install 16.04 since I already had the install media on me, I >>>>>> couldn't as it had issues with the RAID array controller. I had to roll >>>>>> back to 14.04 and then upgrade it to maintain compatibility. I had a >>>>>> similar issue with CentOS6/7 a bout a year ago as well, also on HP servers. >>>>>> In my experience, both times it was the RAID controller. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thomas Scott >>>>>> about.me/thomas.scott >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 9:47 PM Todd Cole wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I suspect it may be 32Bit computer but it should give you a i386 >>>>>>> hardware error during installation. >>>>>>> while 18.04 is only 64 bit you can use the net install at >>>>>>> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/bionic/ >>>>>>> it has a community supported 32 bit version available >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 12:24 PM Stephen Partington < >>>>>>> cryptworks@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have an older Proliant server I am trying to make use of at home. >>>>>>>> The hardware is fully functional, and aside from needing some spare drive >>>>>>>> sleds, It is ready to go. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, I cannot run 18.04 on the server and I suspect it is >>>>>>>> related to changes in the kernel and I am trying to map those. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Architecture is Dual Opteron quad-core Processors and DDR2 ECC >>>>>>>> Registered memory. I think it is a DL 365 Gen 1 (would have to look to make >>>>>>>> sure) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone have thoughts on how I could gracefully get this >>>>>>>> hardware to a current kernel? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you >>>>>>>> from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stephen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss