weird. I currently have no issues with networking. and technically it is not an emulation layer. It is supposed to be an api set or something that runs a Linux kernel under windows natively. On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:42 PM Michael Butash wrote: > Last time I tried WSL was with getting this laptop a few years ago. As a > network guy, I sort of just sat there stunned that the frigging thing > couldn't network. Why the hell would you make a linux emulation layer that > couldn't network? Is this still Ballmer-hate? > > What the hell is good in this day and age without networking? I don't see > how they even shipped it as a thing without network support. > > This and other major things like I said visual lag in the gui, with > up-to-date os, drivers, etc shipped from dell, was utter shite, and just > angered me. It was graphically unusable to me. I gave windoze a solid 2 > weeks as a trial, just to see, and it was garbage to try and be > productive. It really didn't like when I was layer on VM's in vbox, which > usually I have 5-8 vm's at a time running in my main system, and it fell > apart. > > People ask why I bother with linux. Because windoze can't do the things I > do in linux, like run 10 vm's of different os's and still game on steam. > I've ran linux on a desktop as my main rig since 2006, as well as dealing > with entirely windoze enterprise worlds, so I like to think I have some > knowledge of this. > > -mb > > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:44 AM Stephen Partington > wrote: > >> well microsoft has made good improvements with WSL and you can do some >> neat things like that >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:27 AM Michael Butash >> wrote: >> >>> Upgrading to 18.04 broke like everything for me (kde, wm, graphics >>> drivers), it's what single-handedly drove me to arch, so ymmv. >>> >>> My experience with arch hasn't been much better of late, so take it for >>> what you will. Arch updates blew up my desktop, and my laptop I'm afraid >>> to reboot as my last working device. If I didn't hate windoze so much, I >>> might actually try it again, but it's performance on my xps15 was absolute >>> shite with the 4k display. Like mouse lag randomly just to screw with me >>> and slow down everything working. >>> >>> -mb >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 9:13 PM Stephen Partington >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It is most definitely 64 bit. I had 64 bit 16.04 running like a champ >>>> until the 18.04 upgrade was done. >>>> >>>> It also ran vmware 6.7 well also. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019, 9:02 PM Thomas Scott >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I know I had a legacy install on a Proliant I supported that was >>>>> installed upside down and burnt out it's drives after a few years >>>>> (surprised it lasted that long). When I came on-site to reinstall it, I >>>>> tried to install 16.04 since I already had the install media on me, I >>>>> couldn't as it had issues with the RAID array controller. I had to roll >>>>> back to 14.04 and then upgrade it to maintain compatibility. I had a >>>>> similar issue with CentOS6/7 a bout a year ago as well, also on HP servers. >>>>> In my experience, both times it was the RAID controller. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thomas Scott >>>>> about.me/thomas.scott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 9:47 PM Todd Cole wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I suspect it may be 32Bit computer but it should give you a i386 >>>>>> hardware error during installation. >>>>>> while 18.04 is only 64 bit you can use the net install at >>>>>> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/bionic/ >>>>>> it has a community supported 32 bit version available >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 12:24 PM Stephen Partington < >>>>>> cryptworks@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have an older Proliant server I am trying to make use of at home. >>>>>>> The hardware is fully functional, and aside from needing some spare drive >>>>>>> sleds, It is ready to go. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, I cannot run 18.04 on the server and I suspect it is >>>>>>> related to changes in the kernel and I am trying to map those. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Architecture is Dual Opteron quad-core Processors and DDR2 ECC >>>>>>> Registered memory. I think it is a DL 365 Gen 1 (would have to look to make >>>>>>> sure) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does anyone have thoughts on how I could gracefully get this >>>>>>> hardware to a current kernel? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you >>>>>>> from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stephen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. 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