Interesting on both issues. I am assuming you use UEFI and secureboot? On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 9:19 PM Michael Butash wrote: > The ubuntu issue making me switch with vitriol is somewhat different. I > simply can't switch to another DE now under ubuntu, and I hate what ubuntu > did to gnome3. Any other DE but ubuntu's simply crashes and dumps me back > to login. No idea why, and oddly I can't find much about it from others. > It was merely impetus to evacuate ubuntu further, but like crack I can't > seem to break free. > > I ran 16.04 before on my xps15. Old kernels worked ok with bumblebee, but > sucked at everything else, including my dell thunderbolt/usb3 dock. I'd > get random network timeouts, the usb bus would just sorta die randomly. > Lovely feature, really. > > Upgrading it fixed TB3, but fubar'd bumblebee/gpu interaction, and > powertop just sorta said I was causing planetary doom with consumption all > the time. It worked, but used power like crazy. I'd be lucky to get an > hour of batter life, mostly due to the stupid intel vs. nvidia vs. > bumblebee issues on it. Stable network and function vs. heat - I'll take > it. I was hoping moving to arch they might have fixed some of this > stupidity ubuntu could obviously never figure out. > > Why do I hate 18.04? Other than above gpu issues, I upgrade to find my > right click on the touchpad not working, a distinct lack of a minimize > button on my windows, and various things that simply didn't work out of box > I needed to find workarounds for. Upgrading out of sheer morbid curiosity > to 18.10 didn't fix anything, and in fact made most worse. I just hate > ubuntu now, and would really like to never deal with it again. > > I need to make a decent arch linux vm image I can clone and reuse, as > ubuntu is even more annoying with failed upgrades as a server. I really > hate having to rebuild everything every few years, but it does keep me in > practice. > > -mb > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:00 PM Stephen Partington > wrote: > >> To follow up Mike's Conversation earlier about arch on a laptop I am >> actually curious about the issue you had. >> >> I have had really good success with arch on laptops lately. And with the >> release of Ubuntu 18.04 Ubuntu has been really amenable. >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss