From https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux "Arch Linux defines simplicity as *without unnecessary additions or modifications*. It ships software as released by the original developers ( upstream ) with minimal distribution-specific (downstream) changes: patches not accepted by upstream are avoided, and Arch's downstream patches consist almost entirely of backported bug fixes that are obsoleted by the project's next release. In a similar fashion, Arch ships the configuration files provided by upstream with changes limited to distribution-specific issues like adjusting the system file paths. It does not add automation features such as enabling a service simply because the package was installed. Packages are only split when compelling advantages exist, such as to save disk space in particularly bad cases of waste. GUI configuration utilities are not officially provided, encouraging users to perform most system configuration from the shell and a text editor." On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:02 PM Harold Hartley wrote: > I thought arch was just binary. Never knew they started having both. > If arch is offering a binary system, isn’t that a closed system and > doesn’t that violate open source license. That is my question. > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, at 13:58, Stephen Partington wrote: > > Arch if i am correct is both. and like Gentoo you can build as you install > with the option of compile from source. > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 1:40 PM Harold Hartley > wrote: > > __ > > The first part you said I couldn’t have said any better. > > Now isn’t arch a binary system which has their system files and packages > in binary form. > > That doesn’t leave much for fixing a problem on the system if it’s > binary files. > > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, at 13:27, Stephen Partington wrote: > >> Mostly it is just a personal preference. Sometimes it is related to the > window manager. Sometimes it is the package manager. There are a number of > reasons. > >> > >> I personally am torn between arch and Ubuntu (especially with their > lite install option) I like both for different reasons. I have been > considering moving to arch on my laptop. > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 12:04 PM Aaron Jones wrote: > >> > To entertain all the people who can't do Arch. > >> > > >> > Le Troll Face.jpeg here > >> > > >> > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 11:29 AM Stephen Elliott > wrote: > >> >> What is the purpose of all these different distros? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Mar 3, 2019, at 12:00 PM, < > plug-discuss-request@lists.phxlinux.org> < > plug-discuss-request@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Send PLUG-discuss mailing list submissions to > >> >> > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> >> > > >> >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> >> > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.phxlinux.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fplug-discuss&data=02%7C01%7C%7C763b23d1df1b4e6336a108d6a00a7265%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636872364060787903&sdata=qJghQhX9hWHCKzKKW9aBQO2zzPJ46052LA8aHlCqZm8%3D&reserved=0 > >> >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> >> > plug-discuss-request@lists.phxlinux.org > >> >> > > >> >> > You can reach the person managing the list at > >> >> > plug-discuss-owner@lists.phxlinux.org > >> >> > > >> >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> >> > than "Re: Contents of PLUG-discuss digest..." > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Today's Topics: > >> >> > > >> >> > 1. Re: Phoenix Linux (Matthew Crews) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > >> >> > Message: 1 > >> >> > Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2019 15:15:37 +0100 (CET) > >> >> > From: Matthew Crews > >> >> > To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> >> > Subject: Re: Phoenix Linux > >> >> > Message-ID: > >> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> >> > > >> >> > On 3/1/19 6:18 PM, der.hans wrote: > >> >> >> moin moin, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I have seen references to this, but for the first time went and > looked. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Phoenix Linux - based on lubuntu 16.04.3 LTS > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fphoenixlinux.weebly.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C763b23d1df1b4e6336a108d6a00a7265%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636872364060787903&sdata=gbDmb4Xv3bBpMO%2By4qtTA2sPhge2s82e39Mx3Daj%2F0M%3D&reserved=0 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Has anyone tried it? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ciao, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> der.hans > >> >> > > >> >> > I haven't tried it, but it looks like a hobby respin of Lubuntu, > but > >> >> > with none of the support (and lagging behind upstream by a > significant > >> >> > margin). > >> >> > > >> >> > Hobby distros, especially hobby respins, are a tough sell for me > because > >> >> > of the lack of support. I'd normally prefer to stick to upstream > (in > >> >> > this case, Lubuntu). > >> >> > > >> >> > The same person responsible for Phoenix also makes Feren OS, which > is > >> >> > based off of Linux Mint (and in the process of rebasing to Ubuntu > LTS). > >> >> > Feren is relatively well received and does have a support > structure, and > >> >> > looks fairly nice. > >> >> > > >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > >> >> > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > >> >> > Name: signature.asc > >> >> > Type: application/pgp-signature > >> >> > Size: 833 bytes > >> >> > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > >> >> > URL: < > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.phxlinux.org%2Fpipermail%2Fplug-discuss%2Fattachments%2F20190303%2F22561458%2Fattachment-0001.sig&data=02%7C01%7C%7C763b23d1df1b4e6336a108d6a00a7265%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636872364060787903&sdata=a1CDo73PR2qUDpuKqP2uHdFA5MkwgUnr1dtAkxfO2pE%3D&reserved=0 > > > >> >> > > >> >> > ------------------------------ > >> >> > > >> >> > Subject: Digest Footer > >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> >> > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.phxlinux.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fplug-discuss&data=02%7C01%7C%7C763b23d1df1b4e6336a108d6a00a7265%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636872364060797908&sdata=YLMpxM2zMugze0XPXfgXobTT3pLOFEg6yvfy3bAz6IE%3D&reserved=0 > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ------------------------------ > >> >> > > >> >> > End of PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 165, Issue 3 > >> >> > ******************************************** > >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > --------------------------------------------------- > >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > > Harold Hartley > > 17632 N. 5th place > > Phoenix, AZ 85022 > > wheelie207@ownmail.net > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > -- > Harold Hartley > 17632 N. 5th place > Phoenix, AZ 85022 > wheelie207@ownmail.net > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen