also interesting http://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/highpoint-ssd7101a-1-nvme-raid-controller-review-samsung-toshiba-m-2-ssds-tested/ On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Stephen Partington wrote: > Now this is a potentially interesting idea. https://www.frys.com/ > product/9304070 > > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> at that point, I would simply install a really small SSD (something under >> 100 GB), have that do the boot handling and then setup to hand off to the >> NVMP drive. It seems simple enough. Hell, the USB boot idea works equally >> as well. Basically, anything that can allow you to use this new technology >> in your old hardware should be considered. >> >> I have a few ideas on some work arounds I would like to explore. Just no >> money to make them happen. >> >> -eric >> >> On May 25, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Steve Litt wrote: >> >> > Maybe you can get a rip-roaring machine, but how so if that post 2005 >> > computer can't boot of NVMe? What do you do, take the UEFI info and >> > the /boot off another drive, and use the NVMe for / ? Or do you boot >> > off another drive, and then carve up the (assumedly small) NVMe >> > into /usr, /lib, /run ? Life gets a lot more complicated if the machine >> > can't boot the NVMe. >> > >> > SteveT >> > >> > On Wed, 23 May 2018 01:16:21 -0700 >> > Eric Oyen wrote: >> > >> >> well, the beauty about the "add-in" cards is that you can use any >> >> PCI-e slot on just about any desktop that is newer than vintage 2005. >> >> YYou will end up with a rip-roaring fast machine. :) >> >> >> >> -eric >> >> >> >> On May 22, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Carruth, Rusty wrote: >> >> >> >>> Oohh! Oohh!! Something I can answer :-) >> >>> >> >>> 1 - yes and no. Yes, you can replace, but no, you (almost >> >>> certainly) need to get a PCIe card which converts PCIe on the >> >>> motherboard to NVMe on the ssd. We have one of those at work, not >> >>> too expensive as I recall. >> >>> >> >>> 2 - You should be able to. Don't know if that's implemented or not. >> >>> >> >>> 3 - /dev/nvme0n1 as an example. So, for SATA, its /dev/sd for >> >>> nvme, you get a /dev/nvme0 and then you get /dev/nvme0n1 for the >> >>> actual drive, as I remember. I don't remember what the partitions >> >>> turn up as, but I THINK they were /dev/nvme0n1p1 or something like >> >>> that. A second NVMe drive would be /dev/nvme0n2 I think. >> >>> >> >>> 4 - it should. Now, you MIGHT need some updated stuff, for example >> >>> smartctl may or may not work with NVMe on your distro. And you'll >> >>> probably need to download the nvme tool that gives you control sort >> >>> of like hdparm. Using an 'old' distribution might be a problem >> >>> (for some value of 'old') >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] >> >>> On Behalf Of Steve Litt Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:30 PM >> >>> To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >>> Subject: NVMe: was Building a Linux Computer? >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, 22 May 2018 13:57:29 -0700 >> >>> Brian Cluff wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe. They are about >> >>>> the same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow. >> >>> >> >>> This is the first I've heard of NVMe. I just read >> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express , and now have some >> >>> questions: >> >>> >> >>> 1) Can I replace the spinning platter 2.5" hard disk in my 5 year >> >>> old laptop with an NVMe device? My research tells me an NVMe must >> >>> plug into a PCIe slot rather than a SATA slot. >> >>> >> >>> 2) Do you fstrim NVMe-hosted partitions the same way you do for SSD? >> >>> >> >>> 3) When you install an NVMe card in a PCIe slot, what device name >> >>> shows up? Is it sd-whatever, or something else? >> >>> >> >>> 4) If my desktop has a free PCIe slot, does that mean I can plug in >> >>> an NVIe drive and use it? >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> >> >>> SteveT >> >>> >> >>> Steve Litt >> >>> June 2018 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting >> >>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. 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