Now this is a potentially interesting idea. https://www.frys.com/product/9304070 On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > at that point, I would simply install a really small SSD (something under > 100 GB), have that do the boot handling and then setup to hand off to the > NVMP drive. It seems simple enough. Hell, the USB boot idea works equally > as well. Basically, anything that can allow you to use this new technology > in your old hardware should be considered. > > I have a few ideas on some work arounds I would like to explore. Just no > money to make them happen. > > -eric > > On May 25, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Maybe you can get a rip-roaring machine, but how so if that post 2005 > > computer can't boot of NVMe? What do you do, take the UEFI info and > > the /boot off another drive, and use the NVMe for / ? Or do you boot > > off another drive, and then carve up the (assumedly small) NVMe > > into /usr, /lib, /run ? Life gets a lot more complicated if the machine > > can't boot the NVMe. > > > > SteveT > > > > On Wed, 23 May 2018 01:16:21 -0700 > > Eric Oyen wrote: > > > >> well, the beauty about the "add-in" cards is that you can use any > >> PCI-e slot on just about any desktop that is newer than vintage 2005. > >> YYou will end up with a rip-roaring fast machine. :) > >> > >> -eric > >> > >> On May 22, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Carruth, Rusty wrote: > >> > >>> Oohh! Oohh!! Something I can answer :-) > >>> > >>> 1 - yes and no. Yes, you can replace, but no, you (almost > >>> certainly) need to get a PCIe card which converts PCIe on the > >>> motherboard to NVMe on the ssd. We have one of those at work, not > >>> too expensive as I recall. > >>> > >>> 2 - You should be able to. Don't know if that's implemented or not. > >>> > >>> 3 - /dev/nvme0n1 as an example. So, for SATA, its /dev/sd for > >>> nvme, you get a /dev/nvme0 and then you get /dev/nvme0n1 for the > >>> actual drive, as I remember. I don't remember what the partitions > >>> turn up as, but I THINK they were /dev/nvme0n1p1 or something like > >>> that. A second NVMe drive would be /dev/nvme0n2 I think. > >>> > >>> 4 - it should. Now, you MIGHT need some updated stuff, for example > >>> smartctl may or may not work with NVMe on your distro. And you'll > >>> probably need to download the nvme tool that gives you control sort > >>> of like hdparm. Using an 'old' distribution might be a problem > >>> (for some value of 'old') > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] > >>> On Behalf Of Steve Litt Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:30 PM > >>> To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>> Subject: NVMe: was Building a Linux Computer? > >>> > >>> On Tue, 22 May 2018 13:57:29 -0700 > >>> Brian Cluff wrote: > >>> > >>>> For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe. They are about > >>>> the same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow. > >>> > >>> This is the first I've heard of NVMe. I just read > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express , and now have some > >>> questions: > >>> > >>> 1) Can I replace the spinning platter 2.5" hard disk in my 5 year > >>> old laptop with an NVMe device? My research tells me an NVMe must > >>> plug into a PCIe slot rather than a SATA slot. > >>> > >>> 2) Do you fstrim NVMe-hosted partitions the same way you do for SSD? > >>> > >>> 3) When you install an NVMe card in a PCIe slot, what device name > >>> shows up? Is it sd-whatever, or something else? > >>> > >>> 4) If my desktop has a free PCIe slot, does that mean I can plug in > >>> an NVIe drive and use it? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> SteveT > >>> > >>> Steve Litt > >>> June 2018 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting > >>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. 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