The Evo 960 is an NVMe drive. The part of the confusion around M.2 is that it will support 3 different connections. PCIe x2 PCIe x4 and Sata. and you have to look at the "key" locations to verify what is what. Puget systems has a nice KB on de-obfuscating this https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Overview-of-M-2-SSDs-586/ On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Jerry Snitselaar wrote: > On Wed May 23 18, Stephen Partington wrote: > >> In My experience you spend more time waiting on bios than on the OS to >> load. the real boost is when you have heavy disk IO and DB workloads are >> crazy fast. >> >> > Most of my time is spent working with git and dealing with various > branches of the kernel, and the speed up was quite noticable when > I moved from a sata based ssd to an m.2 nvme drive (Samsung evo 960). > > > > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:57 PM, wrote: >> >> >>> >>> I wonder about the NVMe vs SSD. I have and SSD in my desktop and it >>> boots >>> much faster than my Laptop that has NVMe. They are not totally the same, >>> however I think they are close enough. I think some of the performance >>> is >>> based on who made the NVMe or SSD. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2018-05-22 13:57, Brian Cluff wrote: >>> >>> For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe. They are about the >>>> same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow. >>>> >>>> If you don't need it to be portable, then go with a desktop system. >>>> They are much cheaper for the amount of power you get, are tougher so >>>> they will last you longer, upgrade-able so they will last you longer. >>>> They also offer much better cooling so when you are running the CPU at >>>> it's maximum speed that it will actually be able to keep cool enough >>>> to stay running at it's maximum speed without having to throttle >>>> itself down to less than half the speed in order to not burn up, and >>>> the same thing can be said of the GPU. >>>> >>>> My 6 year old desktop is faster than the fastest laptop you can get >>>> new now and it cost me about half what a high end laptop would cost. >>>> Getting a system with an NVMe is one of the biggest driving forces for >>>> making me want to get a new system these days... they are just so >>>> crazy fast that they really make your system feel like a rocket >>>> compared to the same machine with even a SATA attached SSD. >>>> >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> On 05/22/2018 03:27 AM, techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> If I were to build a work system today, I would take the following >>>>> road. >>>>> >>>>> I would go with a laptop with an SSD, at least an i5, an upgraded video >>>>> card like nvidia instead of the video built in the CPU, and I would go >>>>> with >>>>> something that had decent resolution. >>>>> >>>>> A laptop like this one : http://www.dell.com/en-us/work >>>>> /shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/vostro-15-5000/spd/vostro- >>>>> 15-5568-laptop/cav155w10p18s038 >>>>> >>>>> I'd add an external backup drive, an external keyboard, an external >>>>> mouse, and I'd add 2 external flat screen monitors of around 21 inches >>>>> each. >>>>> >>>>> Two of the reasons I moved back to Windows after running Linux Mint for >>>>> 4 or 5 years was I was not able to take advantage of the screen share >>>>> utilities such as Go-To-Meetings and I wanted my printer to be plug and >>>>> play so I can use all it's features. >>>>> >>>>> At one point I was running a laptop with one external flat screen. >>>>> Makes a lot of sense, since you are doing everything on one box that is >>>>> also mobile. >>>>> >>>>> And I think moving as much as you can to the cloud is a good thing. >>>>> >>>>> Now this configuration is what fits my needs. What are your needs? >>>>> Are >>>>> you editing images or videos? Are you a developer? Or are you >>>>> researching >>>>> Linux, or is your research about external things? >>>>> >>>>> For a simple configuration I'd go with a cheap used laptop with an i3 >>>>> and bottom of the line resolution, add and SSD, add Mint, add an >>>>> external >>>>> backup drive. >>>>> >>>>> I have 3 or 4 of these SSDs and they are on sale : >>>>> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147676 >>>>> >>>>> I have two cheap used laptop running these. Great performance and as I >>>>> recall they have a 5 year warrantee. I use one as a Linux web server >>>>> for >>>>> testing. The other I might use for an experiment. I'd like to load >>>>> Mint on >>>>> it and see how far I can push the cloud. I'd like to do everything >>>>> external, using mostly free stuff. I do some video editing so I may >>>>> need a >>>>> little more power. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2018-05-21 19:30, mike enriquez wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am planing to build a Linux computer. I have Ubuntu 16.0 on an old >>>>>> Dell XPS. I will be using it as my research computer. So "I will be >>>>>> going where where others do not dare to go." I want a VPN on it >>>>>> because I have not been able to install a VPN on the computer I now >>>>>> have. I want a 64bit OS. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know that most people say to use and old computer to run Linux. I >>>>>> need ideas on Hardware to avoid and use. What would you do if you had >>>>>> to build your own Linux computer from scratch? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your input. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike Enriquez >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> > > --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. 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