Something to consider is the the meltdown and spectre flaws are entirely seperate than the management engine. Which has known vulnerabilities. On Jan 11, 2018 8:41 AM, wrote: > > > While this article may not be factual, it is completely within the realm > of possibilities. This is a huge problem and there may be HUGE consequences. > > What I'd like to know is how these issues persisted for over 20 years > without detection. I assume Intel, AMD and the other chip manufactures > have some really smart people on staff. Given that, how did these issues, > that are basic to the CPU functionality, become built in without detection > (or functionality left out). How is it that some guy reading the CPU > manual discovered he could trick the CPU into spilling it's cache so he can > have access to other programs data. How is it that under certain > circumstances Kernel memory can be accessed giving away the store. > > I've read these issues may have persisted as far back as 1995. How does > that happen? How does an army of engineers miss this for 23 years? How do > you explain that? > > That means lots of people came and went. There should have been lots of > QA... for 23 years. > > How does this happen? Only two ways I can see 1) sloppy work, or 2) > intentionally. > > We all know that every phone call and electronic message is stored in > Government warehouse(s). We have all heard that it is possible to function > our cellular phones remotely so others can spy on us. And there is much > more.... > > If this was done for the Gov. Maybe it was done for national security -- > not meant to be used against U.S.citizens. Maybe it was done (if > intentional) to give the Gov the ability to spy on our adversaries. Maybe > it started out innocently. > > The bottom line is we have a HUGE problem that will take years to work > though. And we have a HUGE question of how did this persist for 23 years > without detection? > > > > On 2018-01-10 22:03, Steve Litt wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:39:54 -0700 >> techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >> >> Hi, >>> >>> Who knows if this is true, however here it is: >>> >>> https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/comments/7pb7pv/intels_ >>> security_flaw_is_no_flaw/?st=jc9a2mp7&sh=7ef2e2c1 >>> >> >> I would hope people smart enough and possessing enough knowledge of >> logic to program computers would have the smarts and logic not to pass >> along "information" like this, even with the "who knows if this is >> true" disclaimer. I didn't see one reference to a remotely credible >> source, and I saw an obvious political agenda in both the article and >> the comments. >> >> I went up the URL to https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream/ and still >> saw nothing but drivel from wannabe poser internet journalists making >> up unsupported pseudo-speculations. No different from the tabloids at >> the checkout line, except probably less credible. >> >> Passing along a URL to a sewer site like this is a disservice to all, >> and lowers your credibility, "who knows if this is true" not >> withstanding. I hope nobody passes this further, because it's almost >> certainly just plain bullshit. >> >> SteveT >> >> Steve Litt >> December 2017 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times >> http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss