JavaScript being the Raccoon? heh

Andrew McRobb
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On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:46 PM, Ed <plug@0x1b.com> wrote:

> More like raccoons to oranges...
> 8)
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 4:59 PM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
> > Am 04. Jan, 2018 schwätzte Andrew McRobb so:
> >
> > moin moin Andrew,
> >
> > cool, sounds like having umatrix or NoScript blocking javascript is still
> > sufficient.
> >
> > Need to make sure <script> is blocked as well as the external JS.
> >
> > https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_scripts.asp
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> > der.hans
> >
> >> No, HTML5 is a markup at the end of the day. Comparing JS and HTML, is
> >> like
> >> comparing apples to oranges. All HTML5 does is include new tags to use
> >> when
> >> building a web app for you or search engines to use:
> >> https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_intro.asp. It doesn't at all
> handle
> >> any logic like JS would, if that's what you are asking.
> >>
> >> Same can almost go for CSS. It's a description language, it doesn't
> handle
> >> any logic (except for select queries). However, CSS is starting to
> >> implement variables, but you can only use those for *attributes*. Not
> >> write
> >>
> >> a fully functional app with CSS alone.
> >>
> >> Andrew McRobb
> >> Full-time Software Developer
> >> Part-time Freelancer
> >> mcrobb.info
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:21 AM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> moin moin,
> >>>
> >>> I haven't paid much attention to HTML and CSS standards for many years.
> >>>
> >>> As I understand it, HTML5 is script-like to lesson use of javascript.
> >>>
> >>> Does that mean plain HTML ( no javascript ) is sufficient to exploit
> >>> browsers in light of #meltdown and #spectre ?
> >>>
> >>> https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2018/01/03/mitigations-
> >>> landing-new-class-timing-attack/
> >>>
> >>> https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/Home/
> chromium-security/ssca
> >>>
> >>> What about CSS?
> >>>
> >>> ciao,
> >>>
> >>> der.hans
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