On the note of memory, I get home after being on the road for a while (1mo), and notice my desktop is wonky, refresh issues, but works. I find Cinnamon consuming some 91g of my ram now. Funny how that works, guess time to upgrade arch finally. Most days I wish compositing in desktops would go away, it is more trouble than it is worth. -mb On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Aaron Jones wrote: > I run i3wm, luakit, discord, dropbox, and owncloud. Sometimes cmus, mutt, > or firebird. > > I use about 5.9gb of my 32gb ram during normal usage. I don't keep more > than 3 to 5 tabs open on average in luakit. > > Things don't usually pop off until I start using my system for work. > > > On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Matt Graham wrote: > > > >> On 2017-09-06 13:48, Carruth, Rusty wrote: > >> So, I'm impressed by the memory/cpu load that Mr Graham has on his > >> computer. And I thought I was a hog... er, I mean heavy resource > >> user! > > > > It's *usually* not that bad/high. Building one particular Android > project causes this older machine (16G, 2 core i5, 500G SSD), to be almost > unusable for as long as it takes all the java to compile/link/build. > Ordinary Android projects and standard browsing, mail clients, apache, and > so forth run fine. I don't know what precisely they did to make that > project be an enormous hog. It's not even particularly complicated. > > > >> But I agree with him that 16G is getting close to the minimum > >> required amount if you do much web browsing with lots of tabs (Ok, he > >> didn't exactly say that, but it was implied) > > > > I probably have fewer tabs open than almost anyone. 9-15 usually. > > > > Steve Litt wrote: > >> Firefox is a total pig. Most other browsers tie up much less > >> resources, especially with a lot of open tabs, especially with > >> challenging javascript encumbered sites. > >> Also, IMHO when you start to see your browser(s) run slowly, it's > >> time to start closing tabs. If you have a tab that you're for sure > >> going to have to have later, bookmark it. > > > > Yes, pretty much. I find that closing tabs helps, but firefox is a > collection of code parts written by the lowest bidder and flying in > extremely close formation around a memory leak. I try to restart it every > day, which seems to work. And I'd guess that people use tabs instead of > bookmarks because they retain approximately where you were on a page (good > for really long pages), and there's less commitment. > > > > Aaron Jones wrote: > >> Minimum 32gb ddr4 checking in. [...] thanks to bloat and Lennart > >> Poettering, I now need 32gb of ram, 8 cores, and a multi terrabyte > >> ssd just to be effective. The future is here ladies and gents... > >> and it is gloriously unoptimized. > > > > Modern programmers don't seem to care about optimizing things. > Curiously enough, KDE 5 is fairly snappy for me on a machine with only 8G. > Opening a link with gwenview in a dir that contained 17000 links to other > images pegged the CPU for a while as it generated thumbnails for all the > links and preloaded a bunch of them. I'm not sure how often people do that > sort of thing--it was more of a "what happens if I stress this program out > a lot?" than anything. > > > > -- > > Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress > > There is no Darkness in Eternity > > But only Light too dim for us to see. > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss