I had 32gb until a year ago or so, and my system would trip out over nothing. but my normal use, but I'm not normal Looking at it like a network with ~50% utilization, I figured 64gb ram would be a stopgap, and 128 probably more what I want, so let ebay sniping commense. Linux is pretty damn robust when the DE isn't crapping on itself, or the graphics. I've mentioned the laptop, but the desktop is a 2x cpu dell precision 7910t had from ebay, I stacked in some E5-2630 v4 cpus (20 core, 40ht/ea), some 8x samsung ddr4 ecc sticks, an nvidia 1070 gts, and a pair off samsung 950 512gb in raid1 (960 was like a month out, meh) ssd m.2 drives on dual pci carriers to the 8x bus. I don't want now, linux does not stop, just the DE. Prior whole sys would crash with usage about once every 2 weeks. Cinnamon poops out about once a month, but I just hup it. It's more compositing/gpu shite that still can't cope. [mb@desktop ~]$ uptime 19:22:01 up 97 days, 10:11, 8 users, load average: 1.53, 1.21, 1.15 ## as of now Last config, i7-4760k, 32gb ddr3 would crap out, and often. I blame kde mostly, why I use cinnamon now. Not perfect, but more stable. Fsck compositing, I can deal without, really, but they won't let me. YMMV, as they say. -mb On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Aaron Jones wrote: > Minimum 32gb ddr4 checking in. I remember when I used to put Linux on low > spec machines... > > You know, the guy at the computer store told me I would never fill my 10gb > hard drive. But thanks to bloat and Lennart Poettering, I now need 32gb of > ram, 8 cores, and a multi terrabyte ssd just to be effective. The future is > here ladies and gents... and it is gloriously unoptimized. > > On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Stephen Partington > wrote: > > I am currently running 24gb ram and would use more. But I have a > combination of VM use, photography (ram goes fast when you have 24mp raw) > gaming and other strange tasks going. > > On Sep 6, 2017 1:48 PM, "Carruth, Rusty" wrote: > >> Well, we've kind of strayed from the original topic, so I'll do a >> pre-emptive strike and change the subject. Hopefully nobody gets mad... >> >> So, I'm impressed by the memory/cpu load that Mr Graham has on his >> computer. And I thought I was a hog... er, I mean heavy resource user! (I >> once was moved to my own personal Sun Sparc computer because I kept beating >> up the shared one getting work done...) >> >> But I agree with him that 16G is getting close to the minimum required >> amount if you do much web browsing with lots of tabs (Ok, he didn't exactly >> say that, but it was implied). (Moment of openness - I once had 50 tabs in >> a single Firefox window, and there were at least 4 other Firefox windows >> running. At this point in time, I have 17 firefox windows running, with a >> total of 32+5+14+17+10+17+32+30+14+98+12+60+16+1+12+3+18+40. Whoa, that >> even surprised me. Anyway, 'only' 5G of ram in use on this 16G windows >> machine...) >> >> Also, I don't consider a thin client to be useful for anything but a work >> machine which is unable to leave the office. Too many ways to have things >> not work (or be hacked/etc).. IMHO, of course :-) >> >> Rusty >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] On >> Behalf Of Matt Graham >> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 1:38 PM >> To: Main PLUG discussion list >> Subject: Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?! >> >> On 2017-09-06 12:26, techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >> > What are you doing that requires a top of the line CPU, 32G RAM, and a >> > 1T SSD? >> >> Android development? :-) An Android project someone else put together >> here uses some sort of library or syntactic sugar combination that makes >> compiles peg the CPU for several minutes when one line of one file's >> changed. (Java's always been a bloated sack, but this is kind of >> unusual.) >> >> > Given that [using someone else's computer as a vital part of whatever >> > you're doing], a baseline laptop with decent graphics, 8G RAM, and a >> > 128G SSD should be enough. >> >> Maybe for some really lightweight use cases. git assumes you have >> infinite storage space. Any nontrivial node.js project will eat 512M in >> node_modules dependencies. The Android Studio support directory here is >> 42G. The graphic design people here said that there was no way they could >> get by with machines that had only 256G SSDs, because .psd files are huge. >> And these are work machines. You'd have to add the space music and media >> collections take up to personal machines. >> >> > Unless one is running many local virtual machines, doing some serious >> > video or image work, or doing lots of compiling... I am think the >> > cloud and thin client hardware is the way to go. >> >> If you have a 100% reliable and fast network, and your disk space needs >> are tiny, and your external service provider won't die, this *might* work. >> Being able to work (and play) on a personal machine without external >> dependencies is useful in enough circumstances that I wouldn't consider >> buying a thin client as anything other than a toy. >> >> -- >> Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress >> There is no Darkness in Eternity >> But only Light too dim for us to see. >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >