50-60 GBs of RAM consistently?!? A LAPTOP with 128GB of memory?!!? I assume you go swimming in your pile of money each night after work, Mr. McDuck! ;-) Thanks, Alex. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+ On Sep 6, 2017 13:07, "Michael Butash" wrote: > I do run a lot of VM's, almost always at least a windoze vm for visio and > crappy conferencing software, sometimes playing with firewall or other > network appliances, sometimes linux monitoring system appliances I've > built, etc. That and I tend to run a lot of tabs, so 16gb of ram usually > just isn't enough from my last system. I just moved to 128gb of ram in my > desktop as 32gb I'd depelete quick too. > > I certain didn't need a 1tb ssd, but the cost difference was marginal > enough I said screw it. My last few laptops and desktops with 512gb of ssd > is just fine for me. > > I've tried the approach of running a vmware cluster at home for that > purpose with far more resources to run VM's in, but end of the day, the > heat/power wasn't worth it vs. just adding some ram and running what I > needed between my desktop and laptop. Plus vmware management is shite > anymore related to vcenter/esx, so for my needs, virtualbox is just fine. > > Another big reason for the ram is chrom[e|ium] is a fsck'ing pig still. > With my deskop usage, between chrome and vm's, it's not uncommon to run > around 50-60gb of ram all the time. I got tired of hitting EOM's and weird > lag across the board as memory usage would fluctuate greatly in desktop use. > > -mb > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: > >> >> What are you doing that requires a top of the line CPU, 32G RAM, and a 1T >> SSD? >> >> I'm a developer and am seeing a trend toward the cloud. PhpStorm >> provides for editing directly on the dev server, GIT for moving code onto >> the staging server and then onto the production server. I'm moving to >> Plesk that allows me to run PHP 5.6 for older code and PHP 7 for newer >> code, while running Ubuntu 16.04lts. Both versions of PHP on the same VPS. >> >> Given that a baseline laptop with decent graphics, 8G RAM, and a 128G SSD >> should be enough. >> >> Unless one is running many local virtual machines, doing some serious >> video or image work, or doing lots of compiling... I am think the cloud >> and thin client hardware is the way to go. >> >> Your thoughts? >> >> >> >> On 2017-09-06 10:42, Michael Butash wrote: >> >> Yup, the precision 3000/5000 is almost a direct clone of the xps13/15, >> just with different graphics (geforce vs. quadro), wifi (atheros vs. >> intel), and proc (xeon options). Nothing else really different I could >> tell other than price. I went with the xps as consumer coupons go higher >> than precision discounts. >> >> I usually just shop bensbargains.com or dealnews, wait for a dell outlet >> refurb coupon to go 35-40% around a holiday, and score a laptop then for >> some steep savings. I got this xps15 loaded with the 4k display, nvidia >> gpu, 32gb ram, 1tb ssd for $1950 out the door. Worst part of buying from >> dell is sales tax. :( >> >> -mb >> >> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Stephen Partington >> wrote: >> >>> I have been seeing Ubuntu offered on their precision mobile >>> workstations... >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Carruth, Rusty >> > wrote: >>> >>>> Actually, comparing the Alienware that I bought vs a very similar one >>>> at System 76: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Alienware: 16G RAM, 4K display, 1T rotating drive, 128G SSD, I7-7700: >>>> List $2066, paid $1536 >>>> >>>> System76: 16G RAM, 1080P, 2T rotating drive, 512G SSD, >>>> I7-7700: list under $1500. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So, double the rotator size, 4x the SSD size, and remove the 4K display >>>> – and save around $500. I'd say 76 isn't bad, price-wise. The primary >>>> reason I got the alien was because of the 4K and similar price (I did a >>>> side-by-side comparison at the store. 4K really is better, and when I got >>>> home and booted Linux on it – whoa!). (Don't know which video card they >>>> each had – I'm not going to be doing gaming (much?) so don't care that >>>> much... I think) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, live booting the Mint 17.3 DVD resulted in no Ethernet >>>> or WiFi. I'm downloading 18.2 now to see if that's better, as a google >>>> search seems to imply it is. But the display! Oh, my goodness! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Oh, by the way – the alienware has only ONE 'standard' disk slot, but >>>> 3, yes THREE M.2 slots – one very short, the other 2 full-length. And only >>>> 2 RAM slots. Which is too bad – my Lenovo for work (17" also) has 2 >>>> standard slots and 2 M.2 slots (and 4 RAM slots) – I mean, its not like >>>> they don't have ROOM, for goodness sake! But then, the Lenovo was almost >>>> $3000. Of course, it had a 1TB SSD as well as 16G of ram and the TOP video >>>> card... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] *On >>>> Behalf Of *Michael >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 05, 2017 7:15 PM >>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list >>>> *Subject:* Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> system76 is expensive too >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Phil Waclawski < >>>> phil.waclawski@mesacc.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have a laptop from zareason that I've used for several years. It was >>>> a touch pricey, but still powerful enough to do a lot. They also will >>>> install different flavors of linux for you. >>>> >>>> Phil Waclawski >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Mark Phillips < >>>> mark@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote: >>>> >>>> Rusty, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Did you check out System 76 laptops? They come with Ubuntu installed, >>>> but I think you can ask for any distro. I have been using their hardware >>>> for a couple of years, and it is flawless. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Michael Butash >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I just went through this with a new dell, where I used the local >>>> windoze tools to make a usb backup imagine with their software to a 16gb >>>> drive, and just tossed it in a drawer if I ever need to restore things. >>>> That supposedly restores their recovery partitions and windoze itself, >>>> which should be everything... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd not put faith in some tier 1 rep telling you linux voids the >>>> warranty. It was probably one of those "What is linux? Yeah, don't do >>>> that." sort of comments ignorant agents might spew, but otherwise shouldn't >>>> matter. If you restore the disk and bios to prior function, they should be >>>> none the wiser anyways. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -mb >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:37 AM, irb >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> * Carruth, Rusty (aka Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com) used 15K on Tue, 05 >>>> Sep 2017 at 17:21 +0000 to say: >>>> > >>>> > (By the way – does anyone remember the 'windows refund day' many >>>> years back? >>>> > System vendors refused to honor the refund clause stated in the EULA >>>> (or >>>> > whatever it was), claiming that Microsoft had to honor it, and >>>> Micro$oft >>>> > claimed that it was the responsibility of the system vendors (which, >>>> indeed, >>>> > it was). But as far as I know, NOBODY got their refund.... Again, >>>> where's >>>> > the lawyers????) >>>> >>>> I remember that, as part of BALUG many years ago. I never got a refund >>>> and >>>> Microsoft tried to turn it to their advantage by setting up a booth. I >>>> think >>>> there's a documentary out there somewhere. >>>> >>>> When dealing with warranty crap from laptop vendors I just take an >>>> image of >>>> the drive. If I have to send it in I don't include the drive anyway, >>>> and I've >>>> never been given grief over it. Still, having an original hardware >>>> backup >>>> like that is kinda cool. >>>> >>>> /i. >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >