Yup, the precision 3000/5000 is almost a direct clone of the xps13/15, just with different graphics (geforce vs. quadro), wifi (atheros vs. intel), and proc (xeon options). Nothing else really different I could tell other than price. I went with the xps as consumer coupons go higher than precision discounts. I usually just shop bensbargains.com or dealnews, wait for a dell outlet refurb coupon to go 35-40% around a holiday, and score a laptop then for some steep savings. I got this xps15 loaded with the 4k display, nvidia gpu, 32gb ram, 1tb ssd for $1950 out the door. Worst part of buying from dell is sales tax. :( -mb On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Stephen Partington wrote: > I have been seeing Ubuntu offered on their precision mobile workstations... > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Carruth, Rusty > wrote: > >> Actually, comparing the Alienware that I bought vs a very similar one at >> System 76: >> >> >> >> Alienware: 16G RAM, 4K display, 1T rotating drive, 128G SSD, I7-7700: >> List $2066, paid $1536 >> >> System76: 16G RAM, 1080P, 2T rotating drive, 512G SSD, I7-7700: >> list under $1500. >> >> >> >> So, double the rotator size, 4x the SSD size, and remove the 4K display – >> and save around $500. I’d say 76 isn’t bad, price-wise. The primary >> reason I got the alien was because of the 4K and similar price (I did a >> side-by-side comparison at the store. 4K really is better, and when I got >> home and booted Linux on it – whoa!). (Don’t know which video card they >> each had – I’m not going to be doing gaming (much?) so don’t care that >> much… I think) >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, live booting the Mint 17.3 DVD resulted in no Ethernet or >> WiFi. I’m downloading 18.2 now to see if that’s better, as a google search >> seems to imply it is. But the display! Oh, my goodness! >> >> >> >> Oh, by the way – the alienware has only ONE ‘standard’ disk slot, but 3, >> yes THREE M.2 slots – one very short, the other 2 full-length. And only 2 >> RAM slots. Which is too bad – my Lenovo for work (17” also) has 2 standard >> slots and 2 M.2 slots (and 4 RAM slots) – I mean, its not like they don’t >> have ROOM, for goodness sake! But then, the Lenovo was almost $3000. Of >> course, it had a 1TB SSD as well as 16G of ram and the TOP video card… >> >> >> >> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Michael >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 05, 2017 7:15 PM >> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list >> *Subject:* Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?! >> >> >> >> system76 is expensive too >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Phil Waclawski >> wrote: >> >> I have a laptop from zareason that I've used for several years. It was a >> touch pricey, but still powerful enough to do a lot. They also will install >> different flavors of linux for you. >> >> Phil Waclawski >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Mark Phillips >> wrote: >> >> Rusty, >> >> >> >> Did you check out System 76 laptops? They come with Ubuntu installed, but >> I think you can ask for any distro. I have been using their hardware for a >> couple of years, and it is flawless. >> >> >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Michael Butash >> wrote: >> >> I just went through this with a new dell, where I used the local windoze >> tools to make a usb backup imagine with their software to a 16gb drive, and >> just tossed it in a drawer if I ever need to restore things. That >> supposedly restores their recovery partitions and windoze itself, which >> should be everything... >> >> >> >> I'd not put faith in some tier 1 rep telling you linux voids the >> warranty. It was probably one of those "What is linux? Yeah, don't do >> that." sort of comments ignorant agents might spew, but otherwise shouldn't >> matter. If you restore the disk and bios to prior function, they should be >> none the wiser anyways. >> >> >> >> -mb >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:37 AM, irb wrote: >> >> * Carruth, Rusty (aka Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com) used 15K on Tue, 05 Sep >> 2017 at 17:21 +0000 to say: >> > >> > (By the way – does anyone remember the ‘windows refund day’ many years >> back? >> > System vendors refused to honor the refund clause stated in the EULA (or >> > whatever it was), claiming that Microsoft had to honor it, and Micro$oft >> > claimed that it was the responsibility of the system vendors (which, >> indeed, >> > it was). But as far as I know, NOBODY got their refund…. Again, >> where’s >> > the lawyers????) >> >> I remember that, as part of BALUG many years ago. I never got a refund and >> Microsoft tried to turn it to their advantage by setting up a booth. I >> think >> there's a documentary out there somewhere. >> >> When dealing with warranty crap from laptop vendors I just take an image >> of >> the drive. If I have to send it in I don't include the drive anyway, and >> I've >> never been given grief over it. Still, having an original hardware backup >> like that is kinda cool. >> >> /i. >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >