it is a 500 watt ps. Sys log says (in relevant part): There is a LOT there! Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443366.5127] Config: added 'ssid' value 'JUABAFE GUEST 24' Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443366.5127] Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1' Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443366.5127] Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'WPA-PSK' Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443366.5127] Config: added 'psk' value '' Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443366.5135] sup-iface[0x22b2ef0,wlx0013ef200c11]: config: set interface ap_scan to 1 Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Starting User Manager for UID 1000... Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Started Session c1 of user bmike1. Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443366.5354] device (wlx0013ef200c11): supplicant interface state: inactive -> scanning Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast systemd[1887]: Reached target Paths. Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast systemd[1887]: Reached target Sockets. Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast systemd[1887]: Reached target Timers. Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast systemd[1887]: Reached target Basic System. Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast systemd[1887]: Reached target Default. Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast systemd[1887]: Startup finished in 81ms. Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Started User Manager for UID 1000. Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast mdm[1839]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_key_file_free: assertion 'key_file != NULL' failed Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast mdm[1839]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_key_file_get_string: assertion 'key_file != NULL' failed Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast mdm[1839]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_key_file_free: assertion 'key_file != NULL' failed Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast dbus[1192]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit' unit='console-kit-daemon.service' Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Starting Console Manager... Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast console-kit-daemon[1894]: (process:1958): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast console-kit-daemon[1894]: missing action Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast dbus[1192]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit' Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Started Console Manager. Aug 22 19:09:26 MikesBeast console-kit-daemon[1894]: (process:1967): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast kernel: [ 77.870334] wlx0013ef200c11: authenticate with b2:7f:b9:af:f1:df Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast wpa_supplicant[1489]: wlx0013ef200c11: SME: Trying to authenticate with b2:7f:b9:af:f1:df (SSID='JUABAFE GUEST 24' freq=2412 MHz) Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443367.3835] device (wlx0013ef200c11): supplicant interface state: scanning -> authenticating Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast kernel: [ 77.893281] wlx0013ef200c11: send auth to b2:7f:b9:af:f1:df (try 1/3) Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast wpa_supplicant[1489]: wlx0013ef200c11: Trying to associate with b2:7f:b9:af:f1:df (SSID='JUABAFE GUEST 24' freq=2412 MHz) Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast kernel: [ 77.960414] wlx0013ef200c11: authenticated Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast kernel: [ 77.961296] wlx0013ef200c11: associate with b2:7f:b9:af:f1:df (try 1/3) Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443367.4558] device (wlx0013ef200c11): supplicant interface state: authenticating -> associati ng Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast kernel: [ 77.979707] wlx0013ef200c11: RX AssocResp from b2:7f:b9:af:f1:df (capab=0x1411 status=0 aid=3) Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast wpa_supplicant[1489]: wlx0013ef200c11: Associated with b2:7f:b9:af:f1:df Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast kernel: [ 78.081400] wlx0013ef200c11: associated Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast kernel: [ 78.081432] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlx0013ef200c11: link becomes ready Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443367.5767] device (wlx0013ef200c11): supplicant interface state: associating -> 4-way handsh ake Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast wpa_supplicant[1489]: wlx0013ef200c11: WPA: Key negotiation completed with b2:7f:b9:af:f1:df [PTK=CCMP GTK=TKIP] Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast wpa_supplicant[1489]: wlx0013ef200c11: CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to b2:7f:b9:af:f1:df completed [id=0 id_str=] Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443367.6334] device (wlx0013ef200c11): supplicant interface state: 4-way handshake -> complete d Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443367.6334] device (wlx0013ef200c11): Activation: (wifi) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) succ essful. Connected to wireless network 'JUABAFE GUEST 24'. Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443367.6335] device (wlx0013ef200c11): state change: config -> ip-config (reason 'none') [50 7 0 0] Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443367.6340] dhcp4 (wlx0013ef200c11): activation: beginning transaction (timeout in 45 seconds ) Aug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443367.7063] dhcp4 (wlx0013ef200c11): dhclient started with pid 2079 AAug 22 19:09:27 MikesBeast dhclient[2079]: DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.26.4 on wlx0013ef200c11 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 (xid=0x14f3c4a4) Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast dhclient[2079]: DHCPACK of 192.168.26.4 from 192.168.26.1 Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.7751] address 192.168.26.4 Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.7752] plen 24 (255.255.255.0) Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.7752] gateway 192.168.26.1 Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.7753] server identifier 192.168.26.1 Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast avahi-daemon[1227]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface wlx0013ef200c11.IPv4 with address 192.168.26.4. Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.7753] lease time 86400 Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast avahi-daemon[1227]: New relevant interface wlx0013ef200c11.IPv4 for mDNS. Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.7753] nameserver '68.105.28.11' Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast avahi-daemon[1227]: Registering new address record for 192.168.26.4 on wlx0013ef200c11.IPv4. Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.7753] nameserver '68.105.29.11' Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.7754] nameserver '68.105.28.12' Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.7754] dhcp4 (wlx0013ef200c11): state changed unknown -> bound Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.7780] device (wlx0013ef200c11): state change: ip-config -> ip-check (reason 'none') [70 80 0] Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.7789] device (wlx0013ef200c11): state change: ip-check -> secondaries (reason 'none') [ 80 90 0] Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.7794] device (wlx0013ef200c11): state change: secondaries -> activated (reason 'none') [90 100 0] Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.8056] dns-mgr: Writing DNS information to /sbin/resolvconf Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast dnsmasq[1528]: setting upstream servers from DBus Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast dnsmasq[1528]: using nameserver 68.105.28.11#53(via wlx40a5ef04de4b) Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast dnsmasq[1528]: using nameserver 68.105.29.11#53(via wlx40a5ef04de4b) Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast dnsmasq[1528]: using nameserver 68.105.28.12#53(via wlx40a5ef04de4b) Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast dnsmasq[1528]: using nameserver 68.105.28.11#53(via wlx0013ef200c11) Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast dnsmasq[1528]: using nameserver 68.105.29.11#53(via wlx0013ef200c11) Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast dnsmasq[1528]: using nameserver 68.105.28.12#53(via wlx0013ef200c11) Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast NetworkManager[1214]: [1503443368.8190] device (wlx0013ef200c11): Activation: successful, device activated. Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast nm-dispatcher: req:3 'up' [wlx0013ef200c11]: new request (1 scripts) Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast nm-dispatcher: req:3 'up' [wlx0013ef200c11]: start running ordered scripts... Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast dhclient[2079]: bound to 192.168.26.4 -- renewal in 36636 seconds. Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Reloading OpenBSD Secure Shell server. Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Reloaded OpenBSD Secure Shell server. Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast org.a11y.Bus[2092]: ** (process:2165): WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnkno wn: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast org.a11y.Bus[2092]: Activating service name='org.a11y.atspi.Registry' Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast org.a11y.Bus[2092]: Successfully activated service 'org.a11y.atspi.Registry' Aug 22 19:09:28 MikesBeast org.a11y.atspi.Registry[2172]: SpiRegistry daemon is running with well-known name - org.a11y.atspi.Registry AAug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Reloading OpenBSD Secure Shell server. Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Reloaded OpenBSD Secure Shell server. Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast avahi-daemon[1227]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface wlx0013ef200c11.IPv6 with address fe80::8d2f:6e4d:edee:b125. Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast avahi-daemon[1227]: New relevant interface wlx0013ef200c11.IPv6 for mDNS. Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast avahi-daemon[1227]: Registering new address record for fe80::8d2f:6e4d:edee:b125 on wlx0013ef200c11.*. Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast dbus[1192]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.RealtimeKit1' unit='rtkit-daemon.service' Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Starting RealtimeKit Scheduling Policy Service... Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast dbus[1192]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.RealtimeKit1' Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Started RealtimeKit Scheduling Policy Service. Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Successfully called chroot. Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Successfully dropped privileges. Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Successfully limited resources. Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Running. Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Canary thread running. Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Watchdog thread running. Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast dbus[1192]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' unit='upower.service' Aug 22 19:09:29 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Starting Daemon for power management... Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Successfully made thread 2279 of process 2279 (n/a) owned by '1000' high priority at nice level -11. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Supervising 1 threads of 1 processes of 1 users. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Supervising 1 threads of 1 processes of 1 users. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Successfully made thread 2323 of process 2279 (n/a) owned by '1000' RT at priority 5. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Supervising 2 threads of 1 processes of 1 users. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast dbus[1192]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.UPower' Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Started Daemon for power management. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast pulseaudio[2279]: [pulseaudio] source.c: Default and alternate sample rates are the same. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Supervising 2 threads of 1 processes of 1 users. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Successfully made thread 2336 of process 2279 (n/a) owned by '1000' RT at priority 5. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Supervising 3 threads of 1 processes of 1 users. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Supervising 3 threads of 1 processes of 1 users. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Successfully made thread 2351 of process 2279 (n/a) owned by '1000' RT at priority 5. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Supervising 4 threads of 1 processes of 1 users. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Supervising 4 threads of 1 processes of 1 users. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Successfully made thread 2352 of process 2279 (n/a) owned by '1000' RT at priority 5. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast rtkit-daemon[2280]: Supervising 5 threads of 1 processes of 1 users. Aug 22 19:09:30 MikesBeast dbus[1192]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.bluez' unit='dbus-org.bluez.service' Aug 22 19:09:31 MikesBeast dbus[1192]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.UDisks2' unit='udisks2.service' Aug 22 19:09:31 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Starting Disk Manager... Aug 22 19:09:31 MikesBeast udisksd[2365]: udisks daemon version 2.1.7 starting Aug 22 19:09:31 MikesBeast dbus[1192]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.UDisks2' Aug 22 19:09:31 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Started Disk Manager. Aug 22 19:09:31 MikesBeast udisksd[2365]: Acquired the name org.freedesktop.UDisks2 on the system message bus Aug 22 19:09:32 MikesBeast systemd[1887]: Time has been changed Aug 22 19:09:32 MikesBeast ntpdate[1686]: step time server 128.138.141.172 offset 0.795387 sec Aug 22 19:09:32 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Time has been changed Aug 22 19:09:32 MikesBeast org.gtk.vfs.AfcVolumeMonitor[2092]: Volume monitor alive Aug 22 19:09:35 MikesBeast cinnamon-session[1968]: WARNING: t+5.54022s: Failed to start app: Unable to start application: Failed to execute child process "hp-systray" (No such file or directory) Aug 22 19:09:35 MikesBeast cinnamon-session[1968]: WARNING: t+5.54342s: Failed to start app: Unable to start application: Failed to execute child process "mate-terminal" (No such file or directory) Aug 22 19:09:35 MikesBeast /cinnamon-killer-daemon: Bound Cinnamon restart to Escape. Aug 22 19:09:56 MikesBeast pulseaudio[2279]: [pulseaudio] bluez5-util.c: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. Aug 22 19:09:57 MikesBeast org.gnome.keyring.SystemPrompter[2092]: (gcr-prompter:2648): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory of theme oxygen has no size field Aug 22 19:09:57 MikesBeast org.gnome.keyring.SystemPrompter[2092]: Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. Aug 22 19:10:11 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Starting Stop ureadahead data collection... Aug 22 19:10:11 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Stopped Read required files in advance. Aug 22 19:10:11 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Started Stop ureadahead data collection. Aug 22 19:11:07 MikesBeast kernel: [ 176.794069] [UFW BLOCK] IN=wlx40a5ef04de4b OUT= MAC=40:a5:ef:04:de:4b:b0:7f:b9:af:f1:db:08:00 SRC=172.217.6.165 DST=192.168.26.3 LEN=95 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=12286 PROTO=TCP SPT=443 DPT=51838 WINDOW=811 RES=0x00 ACK PSH URGP=0 Aug 22 19:11:07 MikesBeast kernel: [ 177.161626] [UFW BLOCK] IN=wlx40a5ef04de4b OUT= MAC=40:a5:ef:04:de:4b:b0:7f:b9:af:f1:db:08:00 SRC=172.217.6.165 DST=192.168.26.3 LEN=95 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=12523 PROTO=TCP SPT=443 DPT=51838 WINDOW=811 RES=0x00 ACK PSH URGP=0 Aug 22 19:11:07 MikesBeast kernel: [ 177.676807] [UFW BLOCK] IN=wlx40a5ef04de4b OUT= MAC=40:a5:ef:04:de:4b:b0:7f:b9:af:f1:db:08:00 SRC=172.217.6.165 DST=192.168.26.3 LEN=95 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=12848 PROTO=TCP SPT=443 DPT=51838 WINDOW=811 RES=0x00 ACK PSH URGP=0 Aug 22 19:11:08 MikesBeast kernel: [ 178.696784] [UFW BLOCK] IN=wlx40a5ef04de4b OUT= MAC=40:a5:ef:04:de:4b:b0:7f:b9:af:f1:db:08:00 SRC=172.217.6.165 DST=192.168.26.3 LEN=95 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=13167 PROTO=TCP SPT=443 DPT=51838 WINDOW=811 RES=0x00 ACK PSH URGP=0 Aug 22 19:11:11 MikesBeast kernel: [ 180.745976] [UFW BLOCK] IN=wlx40a5ef04de4b OUT= MAC=40:a5:ef:04:de:4b:b0:7f:b9:af:f1:db:08:00 SRC=172.217.6.165 DST=192.168.26.3 LEN=95 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=14141 PROTO=TCP SPT=443 DPT=51838 WINDOW=811 RES=0x00 ACK PSH URGP=0 Aug 22 19:11:15 MikesBeast kernel: [ 184.840619] [UFW BLOCK] IN=wlx40a5ef04de4b OUT= MAC=40:a5:ef:04:de:4b:b0:7f:b9:af:f1:db:08:00 SRC=172.217.6.165 DST=192.168.26.3 LEN=95 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=16353 PROTO=TCP SPT=443 DPT=51838 WINDOW=811 RES=0x00 ACK PSH URGP=0 Aug 22 19:11:23 MikesBeast kernel: [ 193.031534] [UFW BLOCK] IN=wlx40a5ef04de4b OUT= MAC=40:a5:ef:04:de:4b:b0:7f:b9:af:f1:db:08:00 SRC=172.217.6.165 DST=192.168.26.3 LEN=95 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=53 ID=20452 PROTO=TCP SPT=443 DPT=51838 WINDOW=811 RES=0x00 ACK PSH URGP=0 Aug 22 19:17:01 MikesBeast CRON[3163]: (root) CMD ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) Aug 22 19:23:18 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories... Aug 22 19:23:18 MikesBeast systemd-tmpfiles[3935]: [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/var.conf:14] Duplicate line for path "/var/log", ignoring. Aug 22 19:23:18 MikesBeast systemd[1]: Started Cleanup of Temporary Directories. Aug 22 19:39:01 MikesBeast CRON[4197]: (root) CMD ( [ -x /usr/lib/php/sessionclean ] && /usr/lib/php/sessionclean) Aug 22 19:41:41 MikesBeast cinnamon-screensaver-pam-helper: pam_ecryptfs: seteuid error Aug 22 20:04:29 MikesBeast org.gnome.Terminal[2092]: (gnome-terminal-server:4796): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory of theme oxygen has no size field Aug 22 20:09:01 MikesBeast CRON[4878]: (root) CMD ( [ -x /usr/lib/php/sessionclean ] && /usr/lib/php/sessionclean) : On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Carruth, Rusty wrote: > Personally, 5 years is nothing in the life of a power supply, unless it is > overloaded. > > > What’s the wattage (ha) of the PS? > > > > Look in syslog and see if it says anything interesting (syslog, messages, > whatever). > > > > Do you have lmsensors installed? Does it show anything bad? > > > > *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] *On > Behalf Of *Michael > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 22, 2017 4:45 PM > *To:* PLUG > *Subject:* Re: Well.... I think my power-supply is going. > > > > is five years about the life span of a power supply? > > > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Michael wrote: > > I'm thinking this is a darktable thing as it has been 30 minutes since the > restart and when it was restarting it went about five minutes. Any ideas as > to what to do? > > > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Michael wrote: > > The computer keeps shutting itself off. :( > > So I remembered that I had a blower for this and I blew it out and we'll > see what happens. The funny thing is that it only seems to do it after I > start darktable. I am guessing that it is because dt uses the cpu more. I > don't know..... Well, we'll start darktable now and see what happens..... > darn. it shut itself off! so this does sound like the power supply? > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: