I suspect the issue was more with UDev and those fancy new drives.  I just
wiped then installed Arch on a brand new HP laptop with GPT, zero issues.
I especially like the lack of a separate /boot partition by reusing the
EFI/GPT boot sector.

Personally, my install was very straightforward and stable as hell.

Kevin

On Dec 20, 2016 9:13 AM, "Michael Butash" <michael@butash.net> wrote:

> I agree, this is why I keep separate /usr partitions, both to allow for
> growth, and to monitor my growth.  Another weird thing Arch has such a
> difficult time booting with a separate /usr, more like the dev's ass-u-me
> again no one will *ever* do this...
>
> I started doing it as a means of checks for watching growth over the
> years.  In the old days of 8.04, usually a 4gb partition for /usr was fine,
> and less than a gig for actual root (/).  Now I fill /usr with at least 6gb
> of data on install it seems, 7-8gb is more the norm.
>
> Use of GPT is/was really trying to keep up with tech, where early days of
> SSD, fdisk was terrible about alignment, where most things can and still do
> say to use GPT.  Just no one tells you it is inherently broken still on
> most platforms to consider booting off of.
>
> I'd be more inclined to try EFI, but I'm fond of consistent raid
> approaches, even for boot partitions, where the inflexible FatFS nature of
> EFI partition just rubs me the wrong way as it can't be made natively
> redundant like I can with /boot being on mdraid partitions happily booting
> linux otherwise.  Curious what others do with redundancy around EFI desktop
> drives...
>
> Even without another shed of M$ on here, it still finds a way to screw
> things up.
>
> -mb
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 23:17:38 -0700
>> Michael Butash <michael@butash.net> wrote:
>>
>> > I really had no idea GPT was such an anomaly still.  Everything I
>> > read was like "just do it!".  Not.
>>
>> At this point in time, laptop hard disks still aren't big enough to
>> require EFI, and desktops have multiple disks. So what I do on laptops
>> that can still do MBR is MBR format the hard disk.
>>
>> With my daily driver desktop, with a 4TB disk, and a 3TB disk, and a
>> 256GB SSD, I MBR boot to the SSD, which also contains the whole /usr
>> and /etc tree for easy bootability in these days of symlinked /usr. So
>> I get the advantages of GPT on my large disks, the simple booting of
>> MBR on my SSD: It works fast and beautifully.
>>
>> SteveT
>>
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