got it going. thanks. I think I found a bug in Mint 18. I am now talking
with the mint people. Here is what I wrote them....

these are some instructions I just wrote for my future reference:

right click network connections icon -> edit connections -> <selecct>
<edit> -> ipv4 settings tab -> <method> Automatic (DHCP) addresses only
enter

96.90.175.167, 193.183.98.154, 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4

into DNS servers field

well it worked with mint 17.3 but not 18. it will not save

96.90.175.167, 193.183.98.154, 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4

but only 96.90.175.167

(FYI- 17.3 is ethernet and 18 is wifi)

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Anon Anon <lokotejones@gmail.com> wrote:

> https://support.opendns.com/hc/en-us/articles/228007167-
> Linux-Mint-Cinnamon
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Linux Mint. I got 17.3 on one and 18 on the other
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Anon Anon <lokotejones@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What OS are you using?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ~
>>>>
>>>> ~
>>>>
>>>> ~
>>>>
>>>> ~
>>>>
>>>> "/etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base" 0 lines, 0 characters
>>>>
>>>> Does it matter that there is nothing in the file? So just enter the
>>>> lines:
>>>>
>>>> nameserver 96.90.175.167
>>>> nameserver 193.183.98.154
>>>>
>>>> and that's it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Anon Anon <lokotejones@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you are on Ubuntu or an Ubuntu variant-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.opennicproject.org/configure-your-dns/how-to-set
>>>>> -up-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-linux/
>>>>>
>>>>> Or Follow those instructions.
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo vim /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
>>>>>
>>>>> Then put your nameserver list in like so:
>>>>>
>>>>> nameserver 96.90.175.167
>>>>> nameserver 193.183.98.154
>>>>>
>>>>> No reason to pipe or redirect and let's you see the whole of the file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then just reboot. (You can do it without rebooting but this is easier)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, Anon, like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sudo su
>>>>>> <enter>
>>>>>> cd ~
>>>>>> cat echo nameserver  96.90.175.167 >> /etc/reolv.conf
>>>>>> echo nameserver  193.183.98.154 >> /etc/reolv.conf
>>>>>> echo nameserver  8.8.8.8 >> /etc/reolv.conf
>>>>>> echo nameserver  8.8.4.4 >> /etc/reolv.conf | sed
>>>>>> ‘s/reolov.conf/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base/g’
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Anon Anon <lokotejones@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because Google is owned by the lizard people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2016 09:06, "Michael" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> okay then. I googled how to change the dns from the command line
>>>>>>>> and this is what I found:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sudo su
>>>>>>>> <enter>
>>>>>>>> cd ~
>>>>>>>> echo nameserver  96.90.175.167 > /etc/reolv.conf
>>>>>>>> <and then I supposse to put the other addresse in>
>>>>>>>> echo nameserver  193.183.98.154 >> /etc/reolv.conf
>>>>>>>> echo nameserver  8.8.8.8 >> /etc/reolv.conf
>>>>>>>> echo nameserver  8.8.4.4 >> /etc/reolv.conf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> why do I not just want to use googles dns?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Anon Anon <lokotejones@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No. No it doesn't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Google DNS is for emergencies only when you weren't prepared
>>>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2016 08:31, "Michael" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> well.... I drove home and turned my computer on to change the dns
>>>>>>>>>> and everything appeared to be back to normal. But this tells me to change
>>>>>>>>>> dns to googles dns addresses! right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Anon Anon <lokotejones@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For anyone following along and wondering... How do it know?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is how to press Butan.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <header 1>Help. My DNS is down and I can't get to
>>>>>>>>>>> adultfriendfinder.richardstallman.gnu any more!</header 1>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Go to https://www.opennicproject.org/configure-your-dns/ and
>>>>>>>>>>> choose three DNS servers. The first one should be local to your country.
>>>>>>>>>>> The second one should be local to your country. The third should be a
>>>>>>>>>>> foreign nation. I recommend looking up "Five Eyes" and then  picking from a
>>>>>>>>>>> country not on that list.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But but but.... I can't get to opennicproject! DNS is down!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since you are obviously using Linux as your daily driver, you
>>>>>>>>>>> should have done all this BEFORE the world caught on fire. But let's
>>>>>>>>>>> pretend you didn't. Open your terminal and type
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> dig @193.183.98.154 opennicproject.org A
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> dig @8.8.8.8 opennicproject.org A
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> dig @8.8.4.4 opennicproject.org A
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Keep using DNS providers to do a search until you get through or
>>>>>>>>>>> give up and go outside to play. Either one.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So you can get the IP address for the A record? Then open
>>>>>>>>>>> /etc/hosts with your vim. Did you sudo up? You should have.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sudo vim /etc/hosts
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now go to the bottom of the thing and type
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 66.228.63.70 opennicproject.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you even wq bruh?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now you are a rootin tootin sharp shootin linux hacker. Console
>>>>>>>>>>> cowboy giddy up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bruh - Why did you pick three DNS from different places?
>>>>>>>>>>> Because the likelihood they take down the whole world DNS is
>>>>>>>>>>> low. You can probably still get to the interwebs if you have east coast,
>>>>>>>>>>> west coast, and totally not germany in your list of places to try.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bruh - Who is 'they'?
>>>>>>>>>>> The lizard people who control icann and currently control the
>>>>>>>>>>> planet through manipulation of our free time and access to
>>>>>>>>>>> reddit.com. The greys use Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bruh - What else can I do to be prepared for the lizard people?
>>>>>>>>>>> Build a VPN in a foreign country. Add the rules to switch to a
>>>>>>>>>>> different set of DNS when connected to the VPN. I VPN to a europeeing
>>>>>>>>>>> country and then I switch to DNS from that nation. Unless they hit your DNS
>>>>>>>>>>> for that nation(s), you can easily pivot and be back online at the click of
>>>>>>>>>>> a button.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bruh - I Use Windows... What OS should I be using?
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.templeos.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Anon Anon <
>>>>>>>>>>> lokotejones@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if the above link doesn't load, add the following to etc
>>>>>>>>>>>> hosts first
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 66.228.63.70 opennicproject.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is a temporary fix until you are back online.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 5:41 AM, Anon Anon <
>>>>>>>>>>>> lokotejones@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are doing something wrong. Your DNS has nothing to do with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> system proxy, google chrome, or any thing of the ilk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.opennicproject.org/configure-your-dns/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to the link, find your OS, and follow the instructions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I  googled how to change dns and the instructions were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to go:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proxy configuration under settings but when I did it said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When running Google Chrome under a supported desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment, the system proxy settings will be used. However, either your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system is not supported or there was a problem launching your system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you can still configure via the command line. Please see man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> google-chrome-stable for more information on flags and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment variables.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is strange since this is a brand new install of chrome.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 7:29 AM, Anon Anon <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lokotejones@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because if it's a ddos they are going to take down all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fun and interesting sites. Your computer probably has a cached ip for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google. Google has a resilient infrastructure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure someone will chime in with how to change DNS. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should never be using the stock DNS or DNS powered by your ISP any ways.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2016 05:22, "Michael" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how'd you guesss reddit went down too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried to google changing DNS but all of the pages thaat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show how to do it won't  load.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but if it was a DNS problem wouldn't google be down also?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Anon Anon <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lokotejones@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is how it starts.... First they take away the cat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> videos, then your email, and next it will be your free software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably another DDOS on your DNS. Change your DNS to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 96.90.175.167 and 193.183.98.154
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They make take your Reddit.... But they will never take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your freedom.... GNU!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raises battle ax and wears cyber kilt*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2016 04:55, "Michael" <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usaa is another. google is working (that is how I found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isitworking....) then I found downornotworking and it seems to be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load the pages. so why am I unable to load certain pqges?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protonmail, google (not gmail), isitdownrightnow.....etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is it just me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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