I use Ubuntu on any computer I need to just work. I use it in all my classes and courses. I use it at home. I use Arch on laptops though for self improvement purposes. I recommend Ubuntu to any one. I even use it as the base OS for 4 out of 4 of my servers. It works well and I like the tools it comes with. Never an issue and always smooth sailing. The only improvement they could make would be a stock i3wm xfce dm sans systemd release. So I don't have to do it myself every time I install a desktop. On Nov 3, 2016 03:54, "Steve Litt" wrote: > On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:38:24 -0700 > Michael Butash wrote: > > > So yet another chapter of ubuntu-isms begins in my life, trying to > > install on my new desktop. Step 1 defeat, their server install won't > > even boot with a 16.04.1 server disk. Internal cdrom or external usb > > cdrom, no usb thumbdrive. > > > > Then tried a 16.04.1 desktop installer for kubuntu, which got into > > setup, but proceeded to just lock up indefinitely at the drive setup > > screen, twice. > > > > This is really why I have a hate/love relation with ubuntu, it never > > fails to disappoint. My road to 16.04 has been all upgrades so far, > > this time I'm using 16.04.1 cd's from scratch. > > Curious: What do you love about it? You seem like the kind of person > who could work with any distro. > > > > > I really don't want to have to make a circle of distro's to end up > > back here again, but ubuntu is always so basically dysfunctional > > these days with the most basic things, it's hard to want to care. > > > > I wonder how much others have seen this. This is with legacy boot in > > bios, no uefi crap, and just a basic d-i based ubuntu server install, > > and/or kubuntu. > > I used Ubuntu for several years because it "just works." The trouble > was, as I got more sophisticated, Ubuntu's seatbelts and airbags and > danger sensing devices and training wheels and all that other stuff so > necessary to the newbie badly got in my way. > > So I ditched Ubuntu for Debian, and that was great, but then Debian > went systemd so I switched to Void Linux, and after a rocky 5 weeks of > Void newbie-ism, Void has turned out to be the most useful, maleable > and stable distro I've ever used. I've used Void for over a year now. > > I think you've probably outgrown Ubuntu. > > BUT, as far as your current no-booting installer problem, I wonder if > your media are bad. Just for fun, boot System Rescue CD and have a look > around the system to verify no disk or RAM problems, and that the > processor is what you think it is. If you can't boot System Rescue CD > either, that points an accusing finger at your DVD drive. > > Also, try burning your disks with cdrecord (or wodim) instead of a gui. > I use a command something like this: > > cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 padsize=63s driveropts=burnfree \ > -pad -dao -v -eject myimage.iso > > The padsize=63s and -pad help with the Linux readahead bug. Burnfree > means you don't unknowingly make coasters or bad discs if your computer > can't deliver the data fast enough. > > If you perform the burn like I mentioned above, you *should* be able to > md5 check the disc to the same md5sum as the iso file by following > directions here: > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm > > HTH, > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > November 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business > http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >