Any plans on taking over mac hardware? On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Jerry Snitselaar wrote: > On Fri Oct 23 15, Keith Smith wrote: > >> On 2015-10-23 08:56, Matt Graham wrote: >> >>> On 10/22/2015 10:42 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Why are all the distros systemd(ing) disregarding the opposition? >>>>>> What am I missing... :( >>>>>> >>>>> >>> Redhat wants systemd, and many smaller distros follow Redhat's lead. >>> >> >> >> It appears from what I have read, that Redhat created systemd either >> directly or indirectly. The two programmers who created systemd, Lennart >> Poettering and Kay Sievers, appear to have been working for RedHat when >> they created systemd. Directly or indirectly RedHat was involved and based >> on that I would hope that RHEL 7 is the most proper and best implementation. >> >> > Yes, both Lennart and Kay are employees here, but it started as a > personal project and other people were involved. At the time it was > first developed Kay was working for Novell on SuSE. It came about > because they believed the design of Upstart was flawed, so systemd was > their answer as to what they thought a modern init system could > be. Fedora will have the latest and greatest bits since things tend to > go through there first before making their way into RHEL. > > > >> >>> On 2015-10-22 13:55, Bob Elzer wrote: >>> >>>> Coming from centos 6 to 7, at first I was whoa, but after seeing how >>>> fast it booted I loved it. >>>> >>> >>> Boot speed is a must-have for people? This is a bit strange to me. >>> How often do you reboot your machine? I only do that on my personal >>> machines for kernel upgrades or power failures. Everything else is >>> suspend-to-disk or suspend-to-RAM while the machine's not in use. For >>> the physical machines at work, POST takes a lot longer than SysV init, >>> so using systemd would not help very much. >>> >>> GNOME3 having a hard dependency on systemd means that a lot of people >>> will pretty much have to install it. If any frequently-used thing >>> (MariaDB, postgres, nginx...) decides to use systemd for something, >>> that'll be another set of annoyances for people who don't want >>> systemd. At least openrc is still around, so people can write init >>> scripts in bash *and* have dependency tracking/parallel startup if >>> they want.... >>> >> >> -- >> Keith Smith >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen