I have to agree VB with Seamless is really slick.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Michael Butash <michael@butash.net> wrote:

> Also of note, I've never had real success with wine for anything other
> than diablo, but I really like using seamless mode under virtualbox.  I use
> that running 2 windoze systems (my work image and a personal with my old
> office), and it works quite slick across all my monitors (5 currently) with
> free-floating apps like visio or whatever under win.
>
> I call windoze my "visio hypervisor" for a reason, I can mostly ignore
> windoze is there with seamless mode and that I still need to have it around
> at all.
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On 09/18/2015 03:04 PM, Michael Butash wrote:
>
> I agree to some extent, I have tried lucidcharts, and eventually plan to
> move to that, though I cannot do nearly as detailed work in network
> diagrams as I do in visio with lucid.
>
> I also have a 1.5yr old issue with lucid that their layer import methods
> are broken, which is a big issue for me.  I'm a big user of layers in
> visios for layering things, usually layer 1, 2, 3 data, addressing, other
> logical data, etc with that, and it just sort of pukes them all out when
> importing any format of visio.  I didn't really try, but I expect their
> layers are just as broken exporting to visios as importing from.
>
> Sadly visio is almost a standard for it networking industry, and I
> begrudgingly always have to admit, it really is the *best* of it's kind at
> doing so for technical doc drawings.  I just usually say Microsoft didn't
> make/start it, they just acquired them, so it wasn't totally inept product
> from the go.  I do hate this ribbon thing having to use office 2013 lately
> on a customer instance, I feel like a mcdonalds cashier.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On 09/18/2015 01:32 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>
> lucidchart was surprisingly good as a replacement for visio.
>
> but i have to agree with alot of this. and i think office 365 is getting
> stable under wine again so it should be viable in that environment soon if
> not already.
>
>
>
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