lucidchart was surprisingly good as a replacement for visio. but i have to agree with alot of this. and i think office 365 is getting stable under wine again so it should be viable in that environment soon if not already. On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Michael Butash wrote: > I think they just have enough demand for interoperation between linux and > azure (hyperv) that they are forced to support linux just to keep their > users happy. They can't avoid it, proven they can't defeat it, so they're > only left to play nicely or eventually be replaced by it, even if that is > just patching kernel bugs to keep it working on their platforms. > > Oracle finally had to as well, as their solaris user market was dying > quickly, and really they just needed a stable os to put underneath their > other suits of overpriced middleware. This way, they could control and > default tweak sysctl's so clueless outsourced labor can dummy install > oracle db's like they had a clue how to optimize linux. > > Besides, it would be a boon to make linux work with active directory vs. > having to integrate 3rd party products around it (centrify, powerbroker, > ipa), which would only adds yet more value to active directory to rule them > all if not having to. The holy grail for linux environments is always to > be rid of the last components that stand in your way to domination, usually > AD and desktops for (l)users, but what if you didn't have to? > > If they had a decent visio port under linux, I might actually pay for it > vs. just trying to replace it for the past 10 years. Sadly they'd just > release a half-assed, bastard port like they did office for mac, that you > might as well just use libreoffice, for free. > > -mb > > > > On 09/17/2015 11:59 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > > it was bound to happen sooner or later. perhaps they finally got a brain. > > -eric > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/18/microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux_repeat_microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux/?mt=1442559356305 > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen